Starting with this post:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/44999037
Continues here:
https://sh.itjust.works/post/45035437
More posts discussing the fallout:
Dbzer0 admin claiming Uyghur genocide is ‘overblown and misrepresented’
Dbzer0 admin casually defending Uyghur genocide denial because “libs worse”, yikes
Banned from meanwhileongrad for “No db0 allowed”.
On Dbzer0, ‘harassing mods’ is when you criticize the top admin of .ml for responding to a Wiki link with a Lemmy search
Does lemmy.ml own db0? db0 denies the Uyghur genocide, begins to backtrack that maybe there are human rights abuses, and then immediately backs off as soon as lemmy.ml admin, Davel, steps in.
Tankie bar, db0, will remove your comments and ban you if you criticise lemmy.ml admin, Davel, for denying the Uyghur genocide
When the tankie bar, db0, is pushed about communists purging peasants, Davels swoops in with dehumanisation. Also, if you bring up the Holodomor then you’re a nazi.
Removed false allegations against goat from a post on db0
An anarchist tankie did a write-up of the constant use of ‘degenerate’ as an insult specifically in the MoG comm
Another anarchist tankie did a write-up of the situation
More links:
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/52444570
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/329886
https://sh.itjust.works/post/151703/234360
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/338067
100% this. And so many people still say we need it because it “stops vote brigading.” Which it obviously doesn’t even do.
Meanwhile this kind of drama is getting worse, and we haven’t even scraped the surface of potential downsides yet. I, for one, can’t wait until we have armies of AI driven astroturf bots which use public voting vote to target engagement far beyond what is possible with just comments.
If you don’t want down votes to impact post visibility as much then change the algorithm to do that. Hell, give mods tools to just quietly ignore down votes entire on a case by case basis. Bothe of these things are stupidly simple and would be vastly more effective at dealing with vote brigades than mods making Pepe DaSilva sting graphs trying to root out connected users.
Its more that it does effectively nothing.
You don’t even need to run an instance to see vote history. ActivityPub federates all activity across, and lemmy does not obfuscate in any way.
Any real change to address this would have to be done much lower than whether or not lemvotes sees it.