It’s not fun interacting with them when they often want to engage in ad hominems. This is why I have no interest in the tankie triad.

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      People can use whatever pronouns they want and anyone pitching a fit about it are the ones who deserve scrutiny as far as I’m concerned.

      Drag always rubbed me the wrong way, always ready to jump right to calling people tankies without much interesting conversation to be had.

      If someone is trolling I’m going to ban them when they violate an actual rule, like telling people to kys, because anything else opens up the field for people like Pug to declare who is and isn’t trans based on if they like their pronoun choice.

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        I never said Drag wasn’t trans. I never said that Drag’s neopronoun choice was invalid. I always made an effort to use Drag’s pronoun. But lying is the only tool you have, isn’t it?

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          Would it be transphobic to say “I’ll use she/her for you but I don’t believe you’re a woman, as that’s against the objective reality of biology”?

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            1. I was specifically and repeatedly accused of not using Drag’s pronouns, including in the comment I responded to, since that’s an easier sell to most people to slander someone on.

            2. Women exist. Dragons do not.

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              Women exist. Dragons do not.

              Exist in what sense? Again, is it rooted in something like biology or social assignment in your view, or is it based on the existence of people self-identifying as such? If the former, why do you not take issue with singular they? If the latter, what’s the difference between that and “dragon”? Would you argue there are no people who genuinely use “dragon” as their pronoun? There are certainly quite a few who use “fae/faer”, so it wouldn’t be a significant leap.

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                Exist in what sense?

                In the sense of existing in the real world.

                If the former, why do you not take issue with singular they?

                Why on earth would I take issue with a grammatical usage case that predates Shakespeare?

                Would you argue there are no people who genuinely use “dragon” as their pronoun?

                Why would calling themselves something and asking others to call them something inherently make them something a human being literally cannot be on account of it being a fantasy creature?

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                  Words are defined and redefined based on their real world usage, so if there were enough people describing themselves as dragons, the definition could be updated to account for that. Denying or ridiculing novelty or unorthodoxy would hamper progress in any movement, be it for religious freedoms or trans rights.