I’ve been on Codeberg for over a year now and the experience has been great. It has been around for a while, it’s fast, thanks to Forgejo, the self-hostable open-source software that Codeberg uses, which also offers great features.

However, it lacks a good CI/CD system. I feel like Woodpecker (the CI/CD system Codeberg uses) can’t do more complex things. Forgejo/Gitea have their own CI/CD system which is better, but Codeberg still uses Woodpecker.

But other than that, why isn’t Codeberg more widely adopted? Even privacy advocates continue to use GitHub, despite its acquisition by Microsoft. I agree with the sentiment that GitHub has a large user base, and its widespread adoption is undeniable, but I still think more people should try Codeberg or even self-host their own Forgejo/Gitea instances.

So, I’m curious to hear your perspective. What are the reasons that keep you tied to GitHub? Do the features and network outweigh the privacy concerns? Are there specific functionalities that you rely on and haven’t found elsewhere?

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    @tyler @AustralianSimon

    GDPR applies only to people (even non-EU citizens) who “live” on the territory of EU. EU citizens who leave, don’t have the GDPR protection anymore. There was an affair last year when google started notifying people about transferring their account data to non-EU datacenters after it detected them connecting from a foreign IP when they went for a holiday to Thailand for a month. So clearly you have some misunderstandings of GDPR. Also GDPR prevents selling stuff??

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      That is incorrect. I implemented GDPR for a finance company whose lawyers are contracted to companies like Google to fix their legal mistakes so I trust the lawyers at that company far more than I trust Google’s. That affair you’re describing could easily be taken to court as they are failing to uphold gdpr.

      And you can easily go look up the law yourself. https://www.compliancejunction.com/gdpr-frequently-asked-questions/

      Does GDPR Apply to EU Citizens Living Abroad?

      GDPR protects the personal data and the rights of data subjects as long as they are EU citizens, no matter where they are living.

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        Again companies operating in the EU. While you may have implemented compliance it doesn’t mean you understand the law.

        If not in the EU, this doesn’t impact a business not planning to operate there.

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          I’m gonna go ahead and say that the lawyers I implemented it for understand it a lot better than you (and yes even Google’s lawyers).

          If not in the EU, this doesn’t impact a business not planning to operate there.

          it does if you ever will operate there though. Many many companies eventually need to do business in the EU. So not following GDPR is just asking to never be allowed to operate there ever. Fine for local newspapers, not fine for a finance company that eventually needs to do business across national boundaries.

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              Most people aren’t companies. I’m guessing you’ve never run a company. You want to keep options open, for so many reasons.

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        @tyler Well, they are doing it: https://piunikaweb.com/2021/04/24/google-emails-about-change-of-country-of-association-issue-escalated/ When I followed the steps and wanted to set my country back to Europe, they responded “After reviewing your account, we think your current country association is accurate and we didn’t change anything.” (keeping the wrong one, non-EU country). Note Google LLC is in USA, Google Ireland Limited is in EU https://policies.google.com/faq#associated-country