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The shooting took place late Wednesday outside the Capital Jewish Museum, which was hosting an American Jewish Committee event at the time of the incident.
US Secretary of Homeland Security Kristi Noem announced the deaths in an X post, saying, “We are actively investigating and working to get more information to share.”
The suspect, identified as 30-year-old Elias Rodriquez of Chicago, Illinois, “chanted 'Free, free Palestine,’ while in custody,” she added.
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Come on guys not all holocaust supporters were bad, some of them were just normal people. /s
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I don’t celebrate their deaths and I wish this didn’t happen but if they support the same thing happening to other noncombatants, I have a hard time seeing how this isn’t karma.
I don’t necessarily believe that civilians are legitimate targets, but these two men, the government they served, and the government of the country they were killed in, are all extremely firm believers that they are.
I know it makes me a terrible person. But I have trouble coming up with any response to this except “good. The time for bullshit words is over”
They were judged under the standard they themselves espoused.
They were very pro Trump. The kind of Israelis that celebrate the genocide.
Weak ass k/d ratio.
AI summary:
The excerpt from the graphic novel appears to express a deep moral conflict about judging the actions of others in high-stakes, life-and-death situations. The character, Alison, is reflecting on how her past idealism and desire for perfect solutions don’t align with the messy, imperfect, and often desperate realities others face. She questions whether her criticism of others—such as Moonshadow, who uses violence for what she sees as justice—is truly about right and wrong, or about asserting her own moral authority.
In the context of a political assassination, this excerpt could be interpreted as a meditation on the complexity of moral judgment in violent political acts. It does not condone violence but challenges the reader to understand the motivations behind desperate actions without reducing them to simple binaries of right or wrong. It critiques moral absolutism and invites reflection on privilege, urgency, and the cost of demanding perfect solutions from those in crisis.
That said, the message is highly nuanced and can be interpreted differently depending on one’s perspective. It’s crucial to approach such discussions with sensitivity, especially when they involve real-world violence and loss of life.
Yuck
Cope
And to think, there are people around here who accuse me of not being a “real” leftist. Who but a leftist would post a page from from a webcomic that’s 90% text? Checkmate libs.
Any one who accuses some one else of not being a real leftist is probably a fed
This is HORRIBLE! Doesn’t he know you’re ONLY allowed to Murder CHILDREN and BABIES otherwise you’re ANTI SEMETIC!
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I’m very conflicted on this. On the one hand, it is a good thing when genocide collaborators die, that’s two less to worry about, but on the other, this could serve as a catalyst for further Zionist crackdowns on free speech.
They were already cracking down. Did you forget what happened to the student protests?
Of course I haven’t, that’s what I’m referring to when I say further crackdowns. But cracking down is not a binary, and I think the cracking down worsening on account of these murders is a legitimate worry to have.
They were going to crackdown anyway. There is no form of effective resistance to Israel that they would not respond to with escalating violence
I understand the catch 22 of it. But they are already doing crackdowns, and even without this, they have already planned more crackdowns. So it means that being afraid/concerned about potential crackdowns only really helps the Zionists/fascists. Just like the Dems always being concerned about how the Republicans will react makes them not actually accomplish anything ever. Never bothered to force things like Roe v Wade into official law when they had chances and just kept it as just an up in the air thing. There are very much times and places for trying “good faith” efforts. But they mean nothing and get stomped on if you already know the other side is “bad faith” only.
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zionazis down
Adventurism sets back this movement of ours. This is what a revolutionary spirit without theory to back it up does. ADL is already using this as casus belli to silence pro-Palestine voices. CIA and Mossad are popping champagne bottles as we speak. And all they lost were two ultimately expendable Zionist bureaucrats. This is a fucking disaster.
It would be if mass repression was not already in place from peaceful nonviolent protests.
Cause and effect are being swapped around.
You think there’s no other place to go from here? Foreign uni students that have pro-Palestinian sentiments are easy targets for the fascist government. Wait until they start going after pro-Palestinian nationals on the grounds of being supportive of domestic terrorism. Why make it easy for them?
This already happened. The entire constitution has been put in the trash can before anyone got shot.
Wrong. You still have the first amendment. A privilege that the entire political spectrum of the US is a fan of. There is however an exemption to the first amendment. That is incitement. You are all making a case for the fascist government to portray pro-Palestinian sentiment as calls for violence.
Let me make it perfectly clear. The 2 that were smoked have a direct hand in the progress of the Zionist project. I have no love for them. But if you’re going to crash out, please crash out responsibly.
First amendment has been canceled for over 2 months. I’m sure this will be a new fan favorite excuse for repression. But looking at it realistically, besides a new excuse the actions will be the exact same.
From where has it been set back?
At the most immediate level, law enforcement presence will be increased in the DC area. Indirectly, this will further propagate the rhetoric of the Israeli state that antizionism is antisemitism. They’re already trying to spin this guy as a raging antisemite.
That is very much not what you were asked
Not an answer to the question I asked.
so the solution is doing nothing instead? because they are already cracking down on (and ignoring) peaceful protests.
and while i don’t believe in adventurism either: their violence is their fault, not ours.
Let me give you a hypothetical. Imagine that these murders happened just as they did. But now imagine that Palestine was not brought up. The guy just stayed silent. The 2 Zionists are dead all the same, but there is plausible deniability that this was not done in the name of Palestine. Like I’m saying, there is a more effective way to crash out, if you are going to crash out. Furthermore, you shouldn’t be crashing out on an individual level! When will we have it sink in that there is no individual solution to systemic issues? Organize!
Learn from your enemy. Many Israeli officials still claim to this day is denying the genocide. It’s not because they think you’ll believe it. It’s about plausible deniability.
still a net positive.
The death of 2 shitbags comes at the inconvenience of many more revolutionary voices. I predict it will not be. Because this was not a revolutionary act. This was adventurism.
not really. these revolutionary voices will be (and are) silenced anyway as soon as they represent any danger. the palestine thing is incidentally a great example.
adventurism won’t save us, but it isnt hurting in this case. small net positive.
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