The signs were there before he became Reichschancellor. People just didn’t think he and his party would basically rewire the whole German government into a totalitarian cult of personality. And then we all found out the hard way.
And I’ve already learned that lesson, having lived in Venezuela. Venezuelan people think that this year’s elections will bring change - nope. As long as the authoritarians are in power, they control everything. Those elections are truly rigged.
The U.S. is different, though. Voting still works. For the people who don’t believe this, I’d like them to explain how Trump lost in 2020 while trying to illegally stay in power.
Your argument is basically Trump bad, vote other person. Yes the other person alternative might be better than Trump, but is that really how you would inspire someone to go vote, through fear of the other rather than having an inspiration leader you are willing to support.
The “fire” is only burning because the dems are wishing for maga-like willingness to deny what we hear and see for ourselves: Biden is unfit to lead America.
WE ALL SAW IT. YOU DID TOO. Denial and gaslighting will not work with non-maga thinking adults.
Stop pretending it’s okay. If the stakes are as high as the dems themselves keep screaming, then act like it and put up a capable candidate.
Just … No.
Of course Trump spews lies, what’s changed over the last 10 years? Nothing. And he’ll get his base to cast ballots.
What has changed is the capacity of President Biden to hold office. It is absolutely mind boggling how tone def Dem leadership is.
This election will be won by compelling undecideds and independent voters to cast a ballot, full stop. It’s a fallacy to think these voters will be compelled purely on policy. Perception is reality, and the perception from any sane person after watching things unfold the last two weeks is that Biden is not fit to carry on as President. Period.
You want Trump to win? Keep Biden in the race. “Trump worse” messaging will blow up in their faces, just like it did with Hillary.
We need a compelling alternative.
Once again, Jon Stewart hits the nail on the head…
This is a weak premise because of what you said earlier:
Perception is reality, and the perception from any sane person after watching things unfold the last two weeks is that Biden is not fit to carry on as President. Period.
And what you’re saying is that those same “sane” people as you call them, would rather have Trump in power? Please.
Sorry if I wasn’t clear. My point is, I do not believe you can compel people to vote at all based on ‘Trump bad’. They’ll just stay home. I am not including people who regularly vote.
If you want to get people in line to vote, there needs to be a more compelling candidate.
It sounds like we’ll both find out who’s right in Nov.
I hate these arguments because they only focus on Biden.
TRUMP SAID LIE AFTER LIE AFTER LIE during the debate - oh, but Biden is the problem?!
Just go out and vote, and Trump will go away.
Don’t vote, or do a protest vote and you’ll regret being this dense later.
He did, but Biden was too slow to rebuttal his lies
They didn’t say anything about fascism.
For the record, Hitler initially won power through elections, he did not begin the whole totalitarian thing until he was already the Chancellor.
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The signs were there before he became Reichschancellor. People just didn’t think he and his party would basically rewire the whole German government into a totalitarian cult of personality. And then we all found out the hard way.
Welp, awesome meme, though I’m not white.
And I’ve already learned that lesson, having lived in Venezuela. Venezuelan people think that this year’s elections will bring change - nope. As long as the authoritarians are in power, they control everything. Those elections are truly rigged.
The U.S. is different, though. Voting still works. For the people who don’t believe this, I’d like them to explain how Trump lost in 2020 while trying to illegally stay in power.
Your argument is basically Trump bad, vote other person. Yes the other person alternative might be better than Trump, but is that really how you would inspire someone to go vote, through fear of the other rather than having an inspiration leader you are willing to support.
Of course not. I’d rather motivate a person to go vote for progress, not fear.
But what options do we have now? What should we do? Continue whining about Biden and give Trump a chance, a moron who is 1000x worse?
And let’s be clear. I blame democrats for putting us in this situation as much as the republicans for sucking up to Trump.
But for now, let’s put the fire out first, then deal with internal politics later.
The “fire” is only burning because the dems are wishing for maga-like willingness to deny what we hear and see for ourselves: Biden is unfit to lead America.
WE ALL SAW IT. YOU DID TOO. Denial and gaslighting will not work with non-maga thinking adults.
Stop pretending it’s okay. If the stakes are as high as the dems themselves keep screaming, then act like it and put up a capable candidate.
There’s your false statement: “Biden is unfit to lead America.”
No, he is not. Prove it beyond a debate performance.
Because if we’re going to just focus on the debate - then neither is Trump. And as the matter of fact, Trump is way, way more unfit.
So… what do?
Stop pretending it was a “bad night,” for starters.
Just … No. Of course Trump spews lies, what’s changed over the last 10 years? Nothing. And he’ll get his base to cast ballots.
What has changed is the capacity of President Biden to hold office. It is absolutely mind boggling how tone def Dem leadership is.
This election will be won by compelling undecideds and independent voters to cast a ballot, full stop. It’s a fallacy to think these voters will be compelled purely on policy. Perception is reality, and the perception from any sane person after watching things unfold the last two weeks is that Biden is not fit to carry on as President. Period.
You want Trump to win? Keep Biden in the race. “Trump worse” messaging will blow up in their faces, just like it did with Hillary. We need a compelling alternative.
Once again, Jon Stewart hits the nail on the head…
This is a weak premise because of what you said earlier:
And what you’re saying is that those same “sane” people as you call them, would rather have Trump in power? Please.
Sorry if I wasn’t clear. My point is, I do not believe you can compel people to vote at all based on ‘Trump bad’. They’ll just stay home. I am not including people who regularly vote. If you want to get people in line to vote, there needs to be a more compelling candidate.
It sounds like we’ll both find out who’s right in Nov.