I never said there was legislation, and in fact if they can accomplish steps without legislation then thats even better for them.
Step 1 - Can you say mainstream ideas that conservative believe on social media and not get kicked off most platforms? No, you will get booted off most platforms.
Step 1 - Can you say mainstream ideas that conservative believe on social media and not get kicked off most platforms? No, you will get booted off most platforms.
How many times have I been banned off this site or from sub-reddits for sharing tepidly conservative opinions? On this site I think temporarily 2-3 times, and probably 30 different subreddits. But you are free to yell any crazy leftist belief about the revolution and putting people up against the wall.
I’m sure you were banned for opinions that expressed no sort of bigotry or hatred of people not like you, and these were easy, mainsteam opinions that only a fool would find unacceptable. Yep, I have no doubt you are not leaving out any details whatsoever.
Anyhow, here you are, somehow still posting, and no one has any doubt that you’re a conservative. I’d say you are expressing yourself pretty freely.
They were boring comments about general conseravtive beliefs, and most of the times I am just explaining what other people believe. Just take a peak at side wide rules, they literally call conservatives bigots all the time and thus interpret their opinions as bigotry and can boot them. And I guess you forget about covid and what they did back then to kick off opinions that went against the overall agenda (cue incoming strawman).
And I guess you forget about covid and what they did back then to kick off opinions that went against the overall agenda (cue incoming strawman).
My dude, covid is when I first witnessed this phenomenon of my social media channels being clogged with conservatives telling me they aren’t allowed on social media.
Hey, you guys shouldn’t have rallied behind the bigot in chief in 2016, then decided (apparently party-wide) that the new Republican strategy was to be the biggest assholes in the room, (any room, be that lecture hall or family holiday gathering) made attempts to whitewash parts of US history you didn’t like, and proclaimed anyone on the queer side of things as a groomer (and/or continuously elected people doing those things) if you didn’t want to be labeled as bigots. (and I’m not even dipping into the whole white supremacy thing) (edit - heck, I forgot the assault on reproductive rights for women - that too!)
If you lie down with dogs…
US conservatives (and Republicans in particular) are experiencing nothing other than reaping what they have sown. When all my local republicans stop putting signs in their yards about what a moron and traitor I am for not voting for Trump, that might be a sign that the three sane ones have gotten together and somehow started to calm the masses. Until then…
Are you denying that peoples channels and social media were censored during covid? And do you think that maybe if a bunch of people saying their channels are getting censored, then maybe a bunch of peoples channels are getting censored?
How are they there to tell me they can’t get on social media if they can’t get on social media?
You folks don’t like having to obey rules, and you get banned when you break them, that’s what I see 99% of the time.
Sorry, the rest of us see what you are doing, we have witnessed what you have done, and to whatever degree we had any interest in interacting with conservatives prior to about 2018, it’s all gone in the shitter since then.
No one who isn’t a conservative/Republican wants to spend a single moment in the room with someone who is, unless its an environment where NO ONE is allowed to talk politics or social issues. Again, you folks have reaped what you have sown. I have zero sympathy for anyone who has supported Trump and Republicans in recent years, with what they have done, what they have tried to do, and what they are still trying to do. I will die of old age before R could possibly prove to me that there’s an ounce of integrity in the entire party, and will never miss an election on any level for as long as I do live to ensure I can cast a vote for literally anyone else.
What you are experiencing is what happens when the group you are a part of has proven repeatedly to be the group of hatred and lies. No one wants to interact with you if they can possibly avoid it, except for people who already think just like you.
Dunno what to tell you.
Edited to add - to whatever degree you care about such things (and I’m not suggesting you should) - I noticed you are getting downvoted in our exchange. These downvotes in our conversation are not from me. I tend not to downvote folks who seem to be earnestly discussing, even when I disagree.
Usually they are able to tell you due to other much smaller channels that have not been banned or other platforms they get very little views on. Since you are not in touch with reality and just repeat propaganda I am not going to read the rest of your comment.
Step 1 - Can you say mainstream ideas that conservative believe on social media and not get kicked off most platforms? No, you will get booted off most platforms.
Heh I know I’m starting a parallel reply chain, but I suddenly remembered this meme today. This is really the crux of the problem.
If we’re not talking legislation, then I don’t see how it’s all that important in a discussion about democracy. If a social media company chooses freely to decide they don’t want to platform someone, where’s the problem? That’s freedom, baby. I have very few carveouts where I will not support someone’s actual right to speech, but I do not think forcing any private entity to platform speech they are against is all that democratic.
I do not even agree that many of these companies are really all that quick to deplatform people either. There are many conservative voices on social media. The examples that come to mind where individuals were kicked off certain sites generally involve explicit undue vitriol against other people (individuals and communities), often wishing harm unto them. If this is not what you mean by the “mainstream ideas that conservative believe” that people are being kicked off platforms for (I sure hope not)…then what else? I mean, who is being booted off of platforms for saying they think the government is too big, or that they think x politician is doing a poor job, etc.?
The issue is the government is so big that it is married to corporations (mainly on the federal level). So the big issue is the government directly giving money to companies and telling them who to censor, and also how the financial system works and the funds that the companies get indirect to censorship. Also there is the “public square” argument that social media is the public square and a few companies have a monopoly on the public square.
I never said there was legislation, and in fact if they can accomplish steps without legislation then thats even better for them.
Step 1 - Can you say mainstream ideas that conservative believe on social media and not get kicked off most platforms? No, you will get booted off most platforms.
‘These days you’re only allowed to have an opinion if it’s woke’, insists man who spends every single day freely expressing non-woke opinions
How many times have I been banned off this site or from sub-reddits for sharing tepidly conservative opinions? On this site I think temporarily 2-3 times, and probably 30 different subreddits. But you are free to yell any crazy leftist belief about the revolution and putting people up against the wall.
I’m sure you were banned for opinions that expressed no sort of bigotry or hatred of people not like you, and these were easy, mainsteam opinions that only a fool would find unacceptable. Yep, I have no doubt you are not leaving out any details whatsoever.
Anyhow, here you are, somehow still posting, and no one has any doubt that you’re a conservative. I’d say you are expressing yourself pretty freely.
They were boring comments about general conseravtive beliefs, and most of the times I am just explaining what other people believe. Just take a peak at side wide rules, they literally call conservatives bigots all the time and thus interpret their opinions as bigotry and can boot them. And I guess you forget about covid and what they did back then to kick off opinions that went against the overall agenda (cue incoming strawman).
My dude, covid is when I first witnessed this phenomenon of my social media channels being clogged with conservatives telling me they aren’t allowed on social media.
Hey, you guys shouldn’t have rallied behind the bigot in chief in 2016, then decided (apparently party-wide) that the new Republican strategy was to be the biggest assholes in the room, (any room, be that lecture hall or family holiday gathering) made attempts to whitewash parts of US history you didn’t like, and proclaimed anyone on the queer side of things as a groomer (and/or continuously elected people doing those things) if you didn’t want to be labeled as bigots. (and I’m not even dipping into the whole white supremacy thing) (edit - heck, I forgot the assault on reproductive rights for women - that too!)
If you lie down with dogs…
US conservatives (and Republicans in particular) are experiencing nothing other than reaping what they have sown. When all my local republicans stop putting signs in their yards about what a moron and traitor I am for not voting for Trump, that might be a sign that the three sane ones have gotten together and somehow started to calm the masses. Until then…
Are you denying that peoples channels and social media were censored during covid? And do you think that maybe if a bunch of people saying their channels are getting censored, then maybe a bunch of peoples channels are getting censored?
How are they there to tell me they can’t get on social media if they can’t get on social media?
You folks don’t like having to obey rules, and you get banned when you break them, that’s what I see 99% of the time.
Sorry, the rest of us see what you are doing, we have witnessed what you have done, and to whatever degree we had any interest in interacting with conservatives prior to about 2018, it’s all gone in the shitter since then.
No one who isn’t a conservative/Republican wants to spend a single moment in the room with someone who is, unless its an environment where NO ONE is allowed to talk politics or social issues. Again, you folks have reaped what you have sown. I have zero sympathy for anyone who has supported Trump and Republicans in recent years, with what they have done, what they have tried to do, and what they are still trying to do. I will die of old age before R could possibly prove to me that there’s an ounce of integrity in the entire party, and will never miss an election on any level for as long as I do live to ensure I can cast a vote for literally anyone else.
What you are experiencing is what happens when the group you are a part of has proven repeatedly to be the group of hatred and lies. No one wants to interact with you if they can possibly avoid it, except for people who already think just like you.
Dunno what to tell you.
Edited to add - to whatever degree you care about such things (and I’m not suggesting you should) - I noticed you are getting downvoted in our exchange. These downvotes in our conversation are not from me. I tend not to downvote folks who seem to be earnestly discussing, even when I disagree.
Usually they are able to tell you due to other much smaller channels that have not been banned or other platforms they get very little views on. Since you are not in touch with reality and just repeat propaganda I am not going to read the rest of your comment.
Heh I know I’m starting a parallel reply chain, but I suddenly remembered this meme today. This is really the crux of the problem.
Oh wow, a meme that is more propaganda, wow good job!
If we’re not talking legislation, then I don’t see how it’s all that important in a discussion about democracy. If a social media company chooses freely to decide they don’t want to platform someone, where’s the problem? That’s freedom, baby. I have very few carveouts where I will not support someone’s actual right to speech, but I do not think forcing any private entity to platform speech they are against is all that democratic.
I do not even agree that many of these companies are really all that quick to deplatform people either. There are many conservative voices on social media. The examples that come to mind where individuals were kicked off certain sites generally involve explicit undue vitriol against other people (individuals and communities), often wishing harm unto them. If this is not what you mean by the “mainstream ideas that conservative believe” that people are being kicked off platforms for (I sure hope not)…then what else? I mean, who is being booted off of platforms for saying they think the government is too big, or that they think x politician is doing a poor job, etc.?
The issue is the government is so big that it is married to corporations (mainly on the federal level). So the big issue is the government directly giving money to companies and telling them who to censor, and also how the financial system works and the funds that the companies get indirect to censorship. Also there is the “public square” argument that social media is the public square and a few companies have a monopoly on the public square.