• IcyToes@sh.itjust.works
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    6 months ago

    UK citizen here. Already had 3 women prime ministers.

    It wasn’t that Hilary was a woman, simply she was more dislikable than Liz Truss and seemed to put nothing out to convince people to vote for her. It wasn’t clear at all what she stood for or what her platform was.

    It came across as entitled and like she took the electorate for granted. No matter how great or good you think you are, or how bad your rival is, you still have to ask the electorate to lend you there vote.

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      6 months ago

      She stood for literally nothing. Just like Biden. And the DNC was caught cheating during the early primaries to thwart Bernie. Just like how Biden went from 4th to 1st overnight after coordinated drop-outs in 2020. At least they didn’t actively commit fraud like in 2016 I guess.

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        She stood for the corporatist democrats. Hillary is, in my mind, the very avatar of the corporatist democrats. I will never forget Bernie going to attent picket lines while Hillary was attending $10,000/seat dinners. I ended up holding my nose and voting for her in the end, because a shitty Democrat on their worst day is still better than Trump. Anyway, I voted for her, so all this high minded “she was right” rhetoric just pisses me off even worse, tbh.

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        Just like how Biden went from 4th to 1st overnight after coordinated drop-outs in 2020.

        I’m surprised how quickly it was forgotten. I feel like I remember it being an open secret at the time - and with a shove from Jim Clyburn at a key moment just to make sure.

        Clyburn’s endorsement of Joe Biden on February 26, 2020, three days before the South Carolina primary, was considered pivotal in the 2020 Democratic presidential primaries. Several analyses have determined the endorsement changed the trajectory of the race, due to Clyburn’s influence over the state’s African-Americans, who make up the majority of its Democratic electorate. Until Clyburn’s endorsement, Biden had not won a single primary and had placed fourth, fifth, and a distant second in the Iowa, New Hampshire, and Nevada caucuses and primaries, respectively. Three days after the South Carolina primary, Biden took a delegate lead on Super Tuesday, and a month later he clinched the nomination.[69][70][71] Biden went on to win the 2020 Presidential election.

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      6 months ago

      Wrong friendo. Here in the states the misogyny is real and pronounced.

      Have you noticed what has happened to women’s reproductive rights in the past couple of years?

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        Misogyny happens everywhere, but it doesn’t help fight it when calling the public misogynists because they didn’t support a dreadful candidate. A man can be a dreadful candidate, and so can a woman.

        The degradation of women’s rights is down to failure of the Democrats to maintain balance in the supreme court. It also represents RBGs inability to step aside when Democrats were in power. Supreme Court justices should have some decency, retire at say 67, and allow a new generation to come along. Clinging on until 87 was insanely risky as you certainly need 5 to 10 years leeway to navigate out on your terms. RBG was eulogised, but her clinging to her seat undermined a careers work and any progress on women’s rights amongst other core rights.

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            6 months ago

            Do you want to tell me who you think was responsible for the 6 - 3 majority on the supreme court? Do you want to tell me how what I said was not the reason for that balance on the SC? Do you not think the overturning of Roe vs Wade was the erosion of women’s rights?

            Why are you so fixated on a candidate from the past that was just no good?

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        There are places far more misogynistic than the US that have had women presidents/heads of government. Pakistan of all places has had a woman prime minister.