• Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    6 months ago

    NATO leftist is a NATO leftist. I for one am shocked. A lot of baby leftists from NATO and NATO-adjacent countries start out this way. Whether you want to spend your time deprogramming them (if they’re even open-minded enough for that) is up to you

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    are they trots or something else? im reading a little book called What is Dialects by Alexandre Konder, a brazilian author, he goes to similar points, he says that there was metaphysics tendencies growing in communists parties around europe, especially in germany with Berninstein, then Lenin dissed the shit out of everyone in What is to be done, to correct these tendencies, that made possible due to Lenin deep understanding of hegelian dialects, then everything went to crap when Stalin came to power because he despised theory, but had a amazing ability to make didactic examples like in the text historical materialism and dialectical materialism, but still weak on hegel, something something that paved way to revisionists like kruchov to rise.

    i felt compelled to translate the part and bring to you guys, but coincidentally the subject came up, so, what is the deal with that? is any of this true that stalin wasn’t up in theory and didn’t understood stuff?

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      Stalin despised theory, but at the same time wrote theory 😂 cant make this shit up.

      Read Stalin, some of his works are available in prolewiki and many other in the marxist library (which is run by trotskys mind you). He was a great theorytician that not only wrote but also put the stuff in action, liberals and revisionist despise Stalin because of how incredibly competent he was and all the MATERIAL achievements that happened under his command.

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      Bernstein was someone with an quite bourgeois mindset. He is mentioned enough in “What has do be done” and Renegade Kautsky. Give those books a chance and read them, they are not hard at all.

      is any of this true that stalin wasn’t up in theory and didn’t understood stuff?

      I would more like to encourage you to find it out. Even if someone will tell you, that it is true or not true, you are just relying on those words.

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        I’ve been reading a little, i got recommended the mentioned texts here on lemmygrad, not gonna lie that trying to learn philosophy has been a frustrating endeavor, to the point that i don’t even know how to properly judge the quality of theory he produced, so i do rely on other people to help sort some thoughts.

        i do know his about his achievements as a leader and why west demonizes him so much, ik it is stupid to use liberals as a compass, anyway, i will keep trying to read more.

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          Theory is judged in practice, if it doesn’t work it’s left behind, if it works it continues to be developed.

          “The philosophers have only interpreted the world, in various ways. The point, however, is to change it.” - karl marx

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      Yes there are trots, but this specific individual was like “stop trying to put labels on me, I’m just a Marxist,” acknowledging the Trotskyism and left communism are dead and they don’t technically identify with them.

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    I love how these guys will talk about Stalin and Mao being un-marxist for being practical and pragmatic, especially funny in the case of Stalin, because he was only continuing on with programs that Lenin had already started.

  • Jesus fucking christ

    there is so much to unpack here lmao. I am too tired and relaxed to do it all, but just the first point, implying Mao or Stalin were nationalists in any sense other than some kind of opportunistic building of “nationality” to ignite it into full on proletarian revolution, like, fucking read a single text you lib shits, lol. W*stern “leftists” deserve the same hellfire as libs, they are just smug ideology shoppers