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    21 days ago

    Debrid-link* + Stremio

    *or any other debrid service (Real-Debrid shut down)

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        Just looked into it a bit more, turns out they’re still working, but:

        I’m not that knowledgeable on the whole topic but here’s how I understand what’s happened incase no one else responds

        RD received a formal notice from the National Federation of Film Publishers (probably law suit) so RD has to comply and strengthen anti piracy measures.

        That started with the deactivation of the API endpoint /instantavailability which is what 3rd party app add ons like torrentio and Fen Lite/Cocoscrapers used to scrape streamable cached links (I think)

        The notice also included a blocking of torrents and purge of the cache of specific media, we don’t know the full extent of this yet but it seems many links are already being blocked

        The reason torrentio is working with RD again is because the torrentio dev built a workaround so that it will still use RD to pull links we just aren’t able to see if they are cached or not, I do not know if this is a permanent fix but as far as I can tell, things will continually get worse for RD, not better.

        Reddit

        Non-Reddit link

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      21 days ago

      Can you elaborate or redirect to further investigate how this could be used?

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      21 days ago

      I agree with the sentiment but if a large majority would stop using these services and pirating wouldn’t it result in either less entertainment or more crackdowns?

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        Nope. It resulted in the original Netflix, aka a service that actually worked and had everything we wanted for a time. Direct reaction to mass piracy and actually reduced it by 90℅ iirc.

        You also can’t crack down on non centralized services and the more decentralized nodes, the harder the job becomes and the more expensive. At some point it will become uneconomic to go after pirates.

        And, yes there will be massively less movies & shows which is very good. We live in a fresh hell where billionaires push out half baked shit every week and the only way to tell them is to not buy it.

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          They really should have just built their own Netflix but profits get split amongst the copyright holders. Every single one of their analysts was warning them what would have happened if they couldn’t solve this real world game theory problem.

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          Good points, thanks for taking the time to explain your point. I strongly agree with the on about the quantity of slop churned out nowadays.

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            The slop is an unfortunate consequence of the streaming model.

            Because there is so much content on streaming and it’s so readily accessible, watching a movie isn’t an “event” anymore in the way it was when DVD or VHS was the only option. And when you pair this with second-screen devices (phones) then it all adds up to people treating movies as background entertainment while they scroll their phone or do something else.

            And because of that, the way shows and movies are produced has changed, too. The reason everything seems like homogenous cookie-cutter crap is because it is. In fact Netflix have specifically been asking producers to dumb content down so viewers can still understand it even when they are only paying half attention.

            Of course, there are still talented people out there making great movies and shows, but they are increasingly drowned in a sea of copy-paste mediocrity.

            And I do feel sorry for all those perhaps equally talented but less senior writers, directors, editors and artists who might never get to produce a movie they are truly proud of, because they’ve been captured by the streaming content factory that demands of them only a constant treadmill of dumbed-down slop, cheap and quick and instantly forgettable - and that people will only ever half-watch.

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              This is indeed a crying shame. I do not understand the concept of watching a movie while scrolling on my phone but maybe that’s just because I grew up with VHS and normal TV programing.

              Again, thanks for the detailed reply, it was very interesting!

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                I found a VHS player at a second hand shop and got into buying and watching VHS before the pandemic and it was actually relaxing. Even with DVD/Blu ray I can’t get as immersed as I was with watching VHS. I would know that at night I was going to watch D.A.R.Y.L and just kick back and not get off the couch. It was a whole thing…power surge fried my player and haven’t found another one yet

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                  Sad to hear about your player, sounds like you had good thing going. There’s something different about the experience, I agree with you.

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        The current model has its own issues. The amount of series that are cancelled after the first or second season is ludicrous. Also, and I’m not sure if it’s related to streaming or the constant writer’s strikes, but series have reduced from 16-26 episodes per season from the height of the piracy-era to 6-10 nowadays.

        If the reduction in piracy led to this deterioration in quality, then I can’t imagine it could get any worse if everyone started pirating again.

        Personally, I reckon it will incentivise the numbskulls in charge that no one is going to pay for 48 separate streaming services and they’ll be forced to adapt (likely via packaging/merging streaming services together).

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      I dont like having DVDs everywhere.

      if they offered DRM free paid downloads so i could give them my money and just host it myself i probably would give them my money.

      but they don’t, so i sail

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        That is fair. But I’ve had more HDD failure than DVD disc rot so far. I prefer physical media which doesn’t require engaging my computer.

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          You can mitigate against HDD failure with RAID and backups.

          I have two 8TB HDDs in a RAID1 configuration. if one dies i can remove the dead one and add a new one to the array and the data will sync back across from the good drive. I also have two 10TB drives in rotation going to offsite storage. every now and again i backup my server to one of these drives, take it to the place i store them and swap them over.

          Only thing i’m missing from the 321 rule is different mediums, considering the amount of data i’m dealing with though the cost of backing up to tape though was prohibitative

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            I swear when I first heard 321 it was “at least 3 copies of the data in at least 2 physical locations with at least one copy being offline” but now I’m hearing of different storage mediums instead of different locations

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    What options do you guys have where you are? In UK we have:

    Now/Sky Amazon Prime Netflix Paramount + Apple TV Britbox Disney+ Free ones are BBC, ITV/STV, Channel 4, My5

    May have missed some.

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    i have seen this meme the third time the last few days and i’m always like: rent where?

    i don’t get it. does it mean, the movie isn’t available within the services subscription, but costs additional money or does it mean it’s not even in any service and you rent it somewhere else?

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      On some services like Amazon Prime you can rent a movie for 24h (or something like that)

      You can also “buy” movies, but I’ve seen so many times that they take away the movie that you “bought” and you don’t get a refund.

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      iTunes, Amazon Prime or Youtube has movies to buy and rent. Lots of newer movies take a long time to appear on streaming if at all. I rent quite a lot on iTunes. It’s a fiver and no hassle. Some are a bit special, like Nosferatu costs 16 just to rent it, yeah no I’ll wait.

      Also buying on iTunes has been worth it for me as they will give you higher quality versions later on without additional cost. Way back I got Home Alone for free in the advent calendar in SD and now I can watch the same in 4K.

      Downside of course is you don’t really own anything.

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      Exactly. Movie? Enter name, wait a minute, watch. Series? Enter name, wait a while longer, watch.

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        My understanding is that not everything is available that way though. I had a friend say they tried to get star trek the motion picture. And while it was there. A month later he still only had half of it. Thats a pretty big name movie to be so hard to get.

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          Depends. I never have had anything that’s not available. Except one older series that wasn’t available anywhere, not even streaming legally. And for dubbed shit it can be more complicated. But i rarely consume that. I use usenet btw with only two indexers. Could add more and even torrents too, that might even make it better. But i would already be fine with just one indexer at all.

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              It’s just as old as the internet itself. Primary reason was communication. A gargantuan federated forum. The binary-part was just there but not that extensively used. Now it’s the other way round (sadly). Communication is down, binaries are up. As to the legality: It’s federated, worldwide. Some providers do take DMCAs, but (as with the rest of the net) it doesn’t do much. Because first most pir8-content is obfuscated and pwd-protected. And second, the moment something was taken down, someone else re-ups it again :-) Benefits to torrent and debrid and all: Retention. So a thing from 10yrs back you can still get with absolute maximum speed your line can do (and your provider gives you ofc). Fuck seeders and upload-ratio and co. Just get it as fast as anything could be. I usually download with ca. 250mb/s. 100 parallel connections. Only some group’s FTP can beat this. But they’re not for the public.

              As to legally paying: It’s just a service that gives you access to something. like debrid. You can have usenet access just to communicate with people or download linux-distros or anything else legal. Also, even in my very restricted country, downloading is legal. Uploading is not.

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                So it’s federated like lemmy? Interesting. So you pay an instance I assume. But does that get you access to all other instances like lemmy? That seems odd, but possible.

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                  not exactly like lemmy. It’s more like ONE base of content they all share. But it’s not like instance A only gives you interracial gay midget-porn, and instance B only farming-simulators and C only linux-apps :) But yes, you pay one of the providers and usually have it all. There’s a chart somewhere to which one is backed by whom, and hence the best retention you could get. AFAIK Eweka is one of the root-providers (I use them and they have regularly cheap deals). For automated easy downloads you’d also need an indexer. There are free ones but they aren’t offering API-acccess. You can get those very cheap to moderatly cheap. I pay like 20 bucks a year for two indexers (where one would really totally suffice). Kinda like the same you’d need for torrent too. A site to get your torrent from.

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          The problems I have are for very specific categories. A lot of the reality tv isn’t available because they are meant to be watched during the time period they air. The more popular ones are still there, jersey shore for example. Documentaries can be hit or miss, especially the ones that were released for free already on a random site or YouTube. You can always download those directly from the web page though.

          Sometimes I have trouble with very old seasons of shows. Usually its easier to find an entire show torrent, but sonarr can’t handle multi-season downloads so you have to do it manually.

          I have more trouble with things that should be automated requiring manaual intervention than the things not being available at all.

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        This is why pirating isn’t an option to most people, you need like 4 apps and a dedicated pc running as a server to match the one click ease of streaming services, it’s ok for me but I get why my parents or less tech savvy people would be unable to figure it out

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          Yes this is true today but dont forget that linux is just generally slow. As each app is a docker there is one day the possibility of someone rolling all 4 or 5 apps into a preconfigured single docker or app that can be a one click install, easy to use. It just hasnt happened yet due to time/lack of effort and so on. Open source is slow like that. Its a voluntary thing so these things always take years.