Something big is happening, as Reddit seems to have purged literally every NSFW sub they know. Reason is always “unmoderated” despite some of the banned subreddits being fully moderated.


Edit: seems to have been a bug in automation (thanks @[email protected]):

https://old.reddit.com/r/ModSupport/comments/1ii67mt/_/mb3fewv

It’s still a good reminder on how quickly a community (or communities) thousands of people enjoy and in some cases rely upon can disappear.

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      Same, when I was a teenager it was Erowid for all my questions, then r/drugs in college. I also loved r/tooktoomuch, which had the best life lessons to offer.

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          Erowid is still good, though I wish there was a little more info about current operations and projects outside of maintaining the experience report database. As far as I can tell, both Erowid Monthly and Erowid Extracts are dead, Ask Erowid is dead, DrugsData is not currently receiving samples, etc.

          There’s reason to play some stuff close to the chest, obviously, but there used to be more activity than just the experience database, and it’s sad to see the other functions languish. But as a repository of drug information it’s still pretty great.

          A newer good harm reduction/info site is tripsit.me, which also has a trip sit via chat service. Can’t speak to the quality of the chat service, over something like the Fireside Project which has been around for a while now, but the infosheets on tripsit are pretty good.

          Edit: Ugh, going through the other Erowid sections again…beginning to think I need to step up and see if they want more volunteers. Lots of dead links where Wayback can probably help a ton, the Character vault can probably be expanded quite a bit, etc. But this all might just be the focus moving on a bit. I just wanted to see Ralph Metzer’s blog, since you hear so much about Tim Leary and Ram Dass but Metzer was right there with 'em.

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        havent heard of ‘Erowid’ in a minute. Great memories back then, simpler times

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    Hmm, maybe they reverted? Everything still seems accessible right now

    Edit: the ones on the screen seem down but there are definitely still some nsfw subreddits still open. Either the purgening has just begun or those fit some kind of criteria for a ban.

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      To be fair I don’t think that many people go to Reddit for porn. With Tumblr it seemed almost exclusive. But it’s still an odd move.

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        Porn on Reddit used to be good but has been awful since the rise of OnlyFans. Now almost every post on porn subreddits is someone shilling their onlyfans using the same 5 second tease clips across dozens of tenuously related subreddits. If the exodus happens to Lemmy, that is what it will be here.

        OF killed good amateur porn

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            it was at the time i wrote that comment (hence the screenshot). Reddit since came out and said there was an error. most of the banned subreddits are now back up

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          OF killed good amateur porn

          As I have seen it pointed out, it’s not just that, although it is a huge part of it. Another, sadly, is that there was so much uncontrolled porn floating around the internet, much of it was pretty fucked up - involuntarily filmed and/or published without consent, not traceable, even with very unclear ages, etc., etc.

          So as a secondary effect, that I think is highly positive, most sites also just don’t allow for non-verified content, or at least are much better at removing anything remotely suspicious. That leaves the OF stuff as the main non-studio-produced source, as it allows for easy, professional verifications.

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      A bug? You mean someone in the office accidentially pressed the big red ‘purge-everything-unholy-for-when-the-evangelicals-come-after-us’ button?

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        Seem to have a big wave of shill and bot ( and private scam DM ) all with Nickname with a leaf emoji at the end to the point where i auto block every name i see with them

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          Seems you’re right. I tried a few subs when the original comment was posted and they didn’t work but now they seem to be back.

          To be fair, it’s still a good thing to remember that it takes like one press of a button to kill a shitton of communities a lot of people care about.

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      As a quick reminder: don’t expect them to handle your load (lol) for free. If you are a gooner/goonette with some income, leave a tip for the server costs and consider volunteering for mod duties if you have time and some internet social skills. If you value your nsfw communities, they don’t exist without work, like any other community.

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        Hosting NSFW content is an absolute ball-ache, so a lot of instances that are not NSFW focussed do not host it.
        In the early days of feddit.uk, we decided to go the path of SFW, to simplify things.
        I absolutely salute the lemmy-nsfw admins in taking that load on.
        And it makes a lot of sense: If you’re going to deal with the headaches, you might as well focus entirely on them!

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    I sure am grateful for how easy it is to avoid porn on lemmy, may that continue to be the case with the certain upcoming influx of it.

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    This has been predicted for many years. Most were expecting it to happen before the IPO, since investors are afraid of porn.

    They had also been gradually heading down this path for a long time, making porn harder and harder (heh) to find and view.

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      It’s not only porn. Today i google-image searched a skin condition. Most results were reddit links, but i wasn’t able to open any of them without their app as the subreddits were apparently 18+!

      I wasn’t able to view any of the information as i refuse to install the app. Google should deprioritize the results that can’t be viewed in the browser.

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      Are they going to revert the changes in a few weeks when Musk loses interest? Seems like a huge loss of website traffic for some Elon virtue signaling.

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      It did happen before the IPO. It’s been happening for several years. They have not been doing mass bans all at once. They’ve been surreptitiously taking down subreddits over the years. Mostly smaller ones that woujldn’t draw much attetnion. Looks like they went for the bigger targets now.

      This isn’t a sudden change to ideologically align with the current US administration either. They have been at this for a long time.

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      It’s only a matter of time. They don’t display any ads on nsfw subreddits currently, so management likely sees these subreddits as nothing but a cost, especially because they tend to be heavily image/gif based. what they are unsure about, which is why they haven’t been purged yet, is likely how much traffic to non-nsfw subreddits nsfw subreddits drive. I think we are likely to see purges of them when/if ad money dips or plateaus and they turn their eye to minimizing operating costs.

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      Man, like I’ll welcome new people, but I don’t want all flooded with porn. I already had to block a bunch of communities/ profiles, and I’ll have to work more to fix my feed. Having said that

      Give me your tired, your goons, Your huddled masses yearning to goon free, I guess.

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          I’m not an admin or anything, but there was a recent meta post about this topic. A lot of NSFW and political stuff is restricted but not blocked. All that means is that it won’t show in any feed unless you actually subscribe to the community. If you subscribe it will show in the all-feed like normal. I think it’s a good middle ground.

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        Try jerboa, you can just block the nsfw instance instead of doing it piecemeal. Total game changer. (Some of the other apps probably have this functionality but I don’t know which.)

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            I didn’t want other NSFW stuff blocked, just porn. When I was originally signing up it seemed like NSFW was being treated as an all or nothing for most instances. Idk if it’s changed or if I just needed to look harder.

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              What’s an example of NSFW that you want to see that is banned by instances banning porn? Which instances are you referring to?

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                Idk it was like 2 years ago. I just remember looking through fediverse guides and instances were labeled as either allowing NSFW content or not, no nuance. I didn’t dig into whether the specific instances were defederated from lemmynsfw nor did I even know to look for that at the time.

                There’s not that much NSFW stuff that isn’t porn but I come across it occasionally. Usually jokes, sometimes people will also be very cautious and mark shit that isn’t really. I prefer to be largely unconstrained with what comes across my feed, just don’t care for the random puss intermingled.

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          I do this in sync as it is. Just saying if a shitload of reddit refugees come here and my feed becomes 90% full of porn, I’ll likely have a few more to ban.

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            As far as I can tell, you can only block communities in sync which is why you’re having to do it one by one. Jerboa you can just block the whole NSFW instance, one and done.

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      As far as I remember they weren’t monetizing NSFW subs, so I guess their reasoning is that banning them reduces server costs while not impacting their ads revenue.

      Now what will be interesting is to see how much of Reddit’s userbase was there at least partly for the porn, and how many users will leave Reddit altogether because of this move

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      I’m against the ban, but I also don’t want that gooning here. Although that’s what drives like half of the internet so maybe it’s a good thing for the fediverse.

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      That’s what it looks like. There are a lot of NSFW subs that didn’t get banned, and some that got banned that weren’t NSFW like /r/narcissisticabuse. All marked as for “being unmoderated”. If they were actually banning NSFW subs, you’d think they’d say so.

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    No porn = more horny people = more births

    No abortion = more births

    The logic driving US legislation everyone, it’s not so much “protect the children” thinking as “make the children have children” thinking.

    Honestly, they’ve guaranteed that the US therapy industry is going to have patients for decades to come!

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      As with anything thiose Nazi does if therapy still exist when they are done with the health sector it will be to make sure the child are well brainwashed after the education camp ( or whatever will replace education in most red state )

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      No abortions can equal less births. Women aren’t going to want to take the risk of getting pregnant if there isn’t a safety net if things go wrong.

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        You might want to crack a sex education reader with special attention to possibilities of error.

        Unfortunately, young and uninformed people will keep falling in love and getting tingly about it.