We just have problems with people making mockeries of trans people. No, your gender is not a dragon, and creating anthropomorphic animal characters is not a disorder, sexuality, or gender identity, even if you dress up as them or get off to porn of them.
You’re why trans and disability rights are always going to be at a standstill. Whenever some stupid thing happens, like cat litter and dog beds in schools to accommodate furries, it’s blamed on disabled and LGBT people, especially trans and nonbinary people, for existing.
You’re why actual children being childish get abused into literally taking their lives, because you broadcast that role-playing as an animal or creating whimsical wacky characters are symptoms of autism instead of a child being a child. They end up in an ABA school that grooms them into believing constant reactive abuse is normal. They’re never allowed anywhere outside of home, the short bus, and the school, because “if they acted like a dragon at a playground, they might actually believe they’re a dragon and they need help”. Then they end up mentally and physically ruined to the point of needing to live in a group home where they’re further abused until they die of stress, a drug overdose by the staff to make them “convenient”, or by their own hand. Because they liked dragons and pokemon a lot as a literal child.
You’re part of the extremely vocal yet incredibly small minority of trans and disabled people that those in power, in charge of those communities’ rights, look at and make decisions based on. You’re why they get dehumanized and divided from society. You’re why everyone else assumes everyone in these communities can’t make rational decisions, and makes arbitrary - and usually unfair - decisions for them. You’re why trans, nonbinary, and disabled voices are spoken over and ignored. You’re why trans, nonbinary, and disabled people are treated like jokes.
We have a problem with the progress of our fight for transgender and disability rights being reversed because some internet users want clicks, clout, and imaginary points that will mean literally nothing in the next five years.
For the record the kitty litter thing was something a school had for emergency use in the case of something like a mass shooting where kids couldn’t leave their classroom to use the bathroom.
Yeah I promise you if furries vanished off the face of the earth transphobes would still be transphobes. Elon Musk is about to be directly involved in government and you think everything you mentioned here is a real obstacle for trans rights? AstroTurf detected blink twice
Enby here - the only one making me feel like I’m treated like a joke is you. Your “problems” are just victim-blaming Drag for the hate the trans community gets as a whole. Drag isn’t responsible for that, and the person repeating transphobic talking points right now is YOU.
Right now, you’re not being an ally. Either educate yourself, or stop speaking for us.
Even if you disbelieve drag’s identity, they are NOT the reason transphobia exists. TRANSPHOBES are the reason transphobia exists.
Every marginalized group has some faction that is willing the throw another smaller or more marginalized group under the bus. There are gays trying to claim legitimacy by fighting trans rights, and binary trans folks are saying we’d be a lot farther if nbs didn’t exist. This is just pandering to people who already hate us in the hopes that we can distract them from ourselves for a little while. It doesn’t work and it hurts people who should be our allies.
You mention the kitty litter thing, but you know that was fully a lie, right? It was there in case of an active shooter situation, and the people upset about it weren’t gesturing to people like drag, but to furries, most of whom (in reality) are just enjoying playing pretend. They will make up lies and people to get mad about with or without those people, so how could drag possibly be making this worse?
So anyone not within your frame of “people” is just trolling and shitting on people. damn, truly “token-effort”
judge what we don’t understand, instead of letting people just live.
Drag here isn’t harming anyone, and seemingly understands the confusion people get, and is not judging.
You know… your comment is precisely what has and will be said about trans people that conform to the gender roles, and NB’s that don’t fit inside them. It’s the thing terf say when “men go into bathroom! it’s horrible!”
I feel like someone from years in the future where bigotry is a thing of the past, stuck in 2024 where we still have to say stuff like “trans rights are human rights”. Like, obviously, rights of human beings are in fact human rights… Are we perpetually 5? It’s infuriating. And I’ll leave it at that. I’d rather fight drowsiness.
What that individual has, is a sexual kink, not identity. To that end, I have to disagree that they are not harming anyone. It is unethical and wildly inappropriate to have others participate in your kinks without consent. Frankly, it is disgusting they not only feel entitled to force the participation of others, but they are dressing their behavior as though they are an oppressed person. I, and many others, do not consent to participating in their kink activity with their partner.
I’ll assume it’s not neopronouns, as that’s just pronouns? And tbh I do not know drag, so I hadon’t know if there is anything else you’re referring to?
Drag uses drag/dragself pronouns because drag is a dragon rider. Drag has been in relationships with many dragons, both platonic and romantic. Even when drag was single, being a dragon rider was still part of drag.
“You can take the dog out of the fight but you can’t take the fight out of the dog” or something.
I disagree. There are abundant cis women and cis men who go to malls, schools, bars, and streets wearing clothes that they believe make themselves look sexy. If using someone’s sexually charged custom pronouns is considered participating in kink then I’d argue going outside wearing anything vaguely sexual like a crop top is also the same level of participating in kink and that is simply accepted by society.
Just existing or looking appealing to sexual partners is not kink nor limited to cis individuals. What an awful argument. This individual is expecting others to help with their personal sexual arousal and playing victim when they refuse to participate. They are a goddamn sex pest.
We have no problem with trans people existing.
We just have problems with people making mockeries of trans people. No, your gender is not a dragon, and creating anthropomorphic animal characters is not a disorder, sexuality, or gender identity, even if you dress up as them or get off to porn of them.
You’re why trans and disability rights are always going to be at a standstill. Whenever some stupid thing happens, like cat litter and dog beds in schools to accommodate furries, it’s blamed on disabled and LGBT people, especially trans and nonbinary people, for existing.
You’re why actual children being childish get abused into literally taking their lives, because you broadcast that role-playing as an animal or creating whimsical wacky characters are symptoms of autism instead of a child being a child. They end up in an ABA school that grooms them into believing constant reactive abuse is normal. They’re never allowed anywhere outside of home, the short bus, and the school, because “if they acted like a dragon at a playground, they might actually believe they’re a dragon and they need help”. Then they end up mentally and physically ruined to the point of needing to live in a group home where they’re further abused until they die of stress, a drug overdose by the staff to make them “convenient”, or by their own hand. Because they liked dragons and pokemon a lot as a literal child.
You’re part of the extremely vocal yet incredibly small minority of trans and disabled people that those in power, in charge of those communities’ rights, look at and make decisions based on. You’re why they get dehumanized and divided from society. You’re why everyone else assumes everyone in these communities can’t make rational decisions, and makes arbitrary - and usually unfair - decisions for them. You’re why trans, nonbinary, and disabled voices are spoken over and ignored. You’re why trans, nonbinary, and disabled people are treated like jokes.
We have a problem with the progress of our fight for transgender and disability rights being reversed because some internet users want clicks, clout, and imaginary points that will mean literally nothing in the next five years.
For the record the kitty litter thing was something a school had for emergency use in the case of something like a mass shooting where kids couldn’t leave their classroom to use the bathroom.
Yeah I promise you if furries vanished off the face of the earth transphobes would still be transphobes. Elon Musk is about to be directly involved in government and you think everything you mentioned here is a real obstacle for trans rights? AstroTurf detected blink twice
Fuck off transphobe
Enby here - the only one making me feel like I’m treated like a joke is you. Your “problems” are just victim-blaming Drag for the hate the trans community gets as a whole. Drag isn’t responsible for that, and the person repeating transphobic talking points right now is YOU.
Right now, you’re not being an ally. Either educate yourself, or stop speaking for us.
Wow, way to prove drag’s bloody point.
Uh no, that would be the people doing the dehumanising ya donkey.
Even if you disbelieve drag’s identity, they are NOT the reason transphobia exists. TRANSPHOBES are the reason transphobia exists.
Every marginalized group has some faction that is willing the throw another smaller or more marginalized group under the bus. There are gays trying to claim legitimacy by fighting trans rights, and binary trans folks are saying we’d be a lot farther if nbs didn’t exist. This is just pandering to people who already hate us in the hopes that we can distract them from ourselves for a little while. It doesn’t work and it hurts people who should be our allies.
You mention the kitty litter thing, but you know that was fully a lie, right? It was there in case of an active shooter situation, and the people upset about it weren’t gesturing to people like drag, but to furries, most of whom (in reality) are just enjoying playing pretend. They will make up lies and people to get mad about with or without those people, so how could drag possibly be making this worse?
To fight transphobia we give ammo to transphobes. Wait what?
Did you read my comment at all?
If you are trans then your existence is ammo to transphobes. That’s kinda just… how it works.
“I don’t have a problem with trans people”
-process to list all their problems with trans people
So anyone not within your frame of “people” is just trolling and shitting on people. damn, truly “token-effort”
judge what we don’t understand, instead of letting people just live.
Drag here isn’t harming anyone, and seemingly understands the confusion people get, and is not judging.
You know… your comment is precisely what has and will be said about trans people that conform to the gender roles, and NB’s that don’t fit inside them. It’s the thing terf say when “men go into bathroom! it’s horrible!”
Don’t be a part of the problem plz
I feel like someone from years in the future where bigotry is a thing of the past, stuck in 2024 where we still have to say stuff like “trans rights are human rights”. Like, obviously, rights of human beings are in fact human rights… Are we perpetually 5? It’s infuriating. And I’ll leave it at that. I’d rather fight drowsiness.
Behold! A token effort… 🥱💚
What that individual has, is a sexual kink, not identity. To that end, I have to disagree that they are not harming anyone. It is unethical and wildly inappropriate to have others participate in your kinks without consent. Frankly, it is disgusting they not only feel entitled to force the participation of others, but they are dressing their behavior as though they are an oppressed person. I, and many others, do not consent to participating in their kink activity with their partner.
Have to ask, what’s this kink?
I’ll assume it’s not neopronouns, as that’s just pronouns? And tbh I do not know drag, so I hadon’t know if there is anything else you’re referring to?
Dragon Fucking, apparently, and their pronoun is an extension of that.
Yeah they’ve said in another comment that their pronouns are draf/dragself because their partner is a dragon. I’m 100% sure the person is trolling
Drag uses drag/dragself pronouns because drag is a dragon rider. Drag has been in relationships with many dragons, both platonic and romantic. Even when drag was single, being a dragon rider was still part of drag.
“You can take the dog out of the fight but you can’t take the fight out of the dog” or something.
I disagree. There are abundant cis women and cis men who go to malls, schools, bars, and streets wearing clothes that they believe make themselves look sexy. If using someone’s sexually charged custom pronouns is considered participating in kink then I’d argue going outside wearing anything vaguely sexual like a crop top is also the same level of participating in kink and that is simply accepted by society.
Just existing or looking appealing to sexual partners is not kink nor limited to cis individuals. What an awful argument. This individual is expecting others to help with their personal sexual arousal and playing victim when they refuse to participate. They are a goddamn sex pest.
I used cis individuals as representative of the majority (who accepts themselves) rather than an exclusive group.
The difference between a kink and a social custom is how much we’re used to it
Thank you for outlining this, I’ve never really thought about it that way
👏👏👏
Actually, drag identifies as a dragon rider. Drag’s partner is the dragon.
The moment someone uses “I identify as […]”, lots of people get their panties in a bunch.
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That was fast.