This isn’t exactly where this belongs so feel free to delete this. I’m mildly infuriated there is no usable alternative to Amazon.com. I’m more than willing to buy products elsewhere, but it’s so easy to default to Amazon. Please help.

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    3 days ago

    You’re on a federated website, but think what we need is more centralized marketplaces?

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    3 days ago

    alternatives would be possible if they wouldn’t be forcibly removed from Amazon from being present in alternatives

    Companies like Getir which had attempted expansion were pushed out, meaning they couldn’t even begin to attempt a secondary market similar to Amazon

    Turkey and likely other European nations has a lot of competition regarding this,

    Getir originates from Turkey, alongside that there is n11, Hepsiburada, Trendyol, idefix, and pttAVM.

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    3 days ago

    Amazon is one issue, but I think the larger enshittification is the proliferation of “marketplace” websites that allow any random imported junk to appeat right alongside quality products with actual manufacturer support.

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    3 days ago

    It isn’t really a good alternative, but Walmart.com has nearly as wide of a selection and the same delivery times.

    Not that Walmart is a better company.

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    3 days ago

    If you don’t mind waiting a while for whatever it is you’re buying, ali-express isn’t too bad. If you’re near a city and it’s not too specialized of a thing you need you can probably find it at a a brick and mortar store.

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      Seconded that. Aliexpress is Amazon with longer shipping and worse return policy. They also have better reviews since they’re not mostly AI garbage.

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    3 days ago

    Find what you want on Amazon, look at reviews, and then go to the actual website of the producer and buy it directly from them. It’s not hard, it just takes an extra step.

    You’ll probably buy less junk, too.

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      It’s not hard, it just takes an extra step.

      Is there some version of “hard” that’s not related to extra steps?

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        3 days ago

        Yes… Something that’s actually difficult? I’m not sure what you’re asking.

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      3 days ago

      I do this, but be warned some companies use Amazon for fulfillment. I have ordered directly from manufacturer websites and still ended up with an Amazon package at my door. I just make a note to find a different brand if I ever need that thing again.

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      Yeah but sometimes the only producers are QAMEQHEJAK and you can’t even find what real brand sells your thing. Or sometimes they don’t do direct sales.

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        That means you’re buying mass produced shit from China, the brand means nothing, and you’ll have better luck on aliexpress.

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          I do this all the time. If it’s going to be cheap chinesium grade stuff I’d rather buy it from AliExpress for cheaper and wait a couple days

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    3 days ago

    I don’t live in the US but here Amazon is like a last resort if we can’t find what we’re looking for.

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    4 days ago

    Not sure what you are looking for but I can easily buy the same stuff on eBay or Walmart or directly from the retailer. I do a search of Amazon and then google the same product to look at different website options.

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      One problem I’ve been having with ebay lately is that I’ve ordered items and they’re coming drop shipped from Amazon or Walmart.

      They’re always sellers with ratings in the upper 90s and with like 1000ish or less reviews. A lot of times they list is as only having 1 or 2 left in stock. I’ve been having some luck going into the reviews and seeing people say “came in an Amazon box” to avoid them.

      It’s one thing to wholesale stuff and resell it, it’s another to just drop ship it from Amazon and Walmart. Been ordering on ebay for many years and I’ve never seen this before.

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        That happened to me a few times before. I got the shipment in 2 days through Amazon even though I ordered through eBay.

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    4 days ago

    This is always the problem: Monopolies are popular with consumers because their centralization makes everything easy. The trappings of convenience.

    Buy stuff directly from stores. Every time I’ve looked, the price elsewhere often exactly matches what Amazon charges because their pricing algorithms are constantly price matching anyhow.

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      4 days ago

      I’d honestly pay a bit more to buy from better vendors. Price, options, shipping aren’t the things why I end up using Amazon mostly (despite not liking it).

      It’s the fact that if I need to return something I just click 2 buttons and no questions asked a guy shows up at my door tomorrow to pick it up and my refund is back in my account by the evening.

      If other vendors started doing that without all the caveats and conditions and such, I’d never look back.

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        3 days ago

        Companies pay for free returns by increasing their prices by about 10% to cover the cost of reverse logistics. Most of the items returned in online shopping end up in landfill.

        Most of what it worthwhile to buy from Amazon can be found in a physical store or from the manufacturers website. Do a bit of research beforehand and it’s very easy to be confident that you’re not going to need to return what you buy.

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    I’m more than willing to buy products elsewhere, but it’s so easy to default to Amazon.

    One of the practices that the FTC sued Amazon over was their requirement that sellers list their lowest prices on Amazon and outsource fulfillment (and give up a huge cut) to Amazon in order to qualify for Prime and good search results.

    The result is that even though most sellers can afford to sell on their own store and keep a larger percentage of the sales revenue, they’re not allowed to actually undercut Amazon’s prices. And so Amazon has shielded itself from price competition, despite engaging in pretty expensive practices (free 2 day shipping for most items and places, free 1-day or even same day shipping for some items in some places). And they did it with contracts instead of actually competing.

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    4 days ago

    I personally use temu and I’ve had the same experience as amazon but for a far better price, my 60 dollar temu headphones had an almost studio quality microphone and metal frame

    Also learn to solder and fix your own stuff to buy less, shave with a straight razor and razorblades and you’ll save hundreds over the year in razors

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      4 days ago

      I’m honestly not sure why you’re being down voted. At this point temu is basically Amazon with longer shipping times.

      It sort of is the next logical progression.

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            4 days ago

            I mean, Chinese companies are well documented as being incredibly shitty. I don’t have a specific source to reference but any amount of casual research backs up my claim.

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              4 days ago

              But the cheap no name brand stuff from Amazon still come from the same factory in China. Only difference is you’ll get it in 2 days, pay more even though Amazon workers are underpaid and overworked and just make Bezos richer.

              All the cheap no name brands are just the same Chinese products. One good example I have is, last year I got a knockoff Apple Watch band from Amazon as a gift for Christmas which was $10. Since it was the wrong size I bought one myself from AliExpress. When it arrived it had the same packaging and product number on it. Only difference is that it was $1 and took 2 weeks.

              If you don’t buy cheap no name brand stuff from Amazon then this doesn’t apply to you but from my experience people buy the cheapest product and hence temu became popular.

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    I’ve been going to Walmart more because of all the Chinese sellers. I fine with it if it’s not on Temu for cheaper and if they disclose it’s going to take three weeks to ship. It pisses me off to no end when they indicate it’s going to take 3 or 4 days to get to me and then I check the tracking a couple days later to see a Chinese mail tracking number.

    So try Walmart, if you want stateside stuff then use the retailer filter and select “Walmart.”

    Another alternative, if it’s likely made in China or cheap, then check Temu. I’ve found things all over Etsy which is just crap bought from Temu and posted on there for double the price. And I mean they get the package, repackage it, and send it to you. No alterations or anything.

    You can also look at ordering directly from manufacturers. Sometimes you’ll get deals.