I believe in socialism, but I feel Stalin shouldn’t be idolised due to things like the Gulag.

I would like more people to become socialist, but I feel not condemning Stalin doesn’t help the cause.

I’ve tried to have a constructieve conversation about this, but I basically get angry comments calling me stupid for believing he did atrocious things.

That’s not how you win someone over.

I struggle to believe the Gulag etc. Never happened, and if it happened I firmly believe Stalin should be condemned.

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    Holy fuck, actually reading someone’s writings about how Stalin really wasn’t the worst is… Quite something.

    Calling Stalin less monstrous than Churchill is rather insane, especially when you add the quip “correct contextualization is important”. Contextualizing Stalin really REALLY doesn’t make him look a y better.

    This is also the first time I see the “Hitler wasn’t that bad, he but the autobahns” argument spied to Stalin.

    This sort of nonsense I only started seeing in the past ten years. I assume you’re young? What happened? You didn’t get books to read? What is it these days that so many people are yearning for the good ol’ days of brutal oppression?

    I always recommend people like you to watch the movie “the chekist”, you know, to add some context. Living under Stalin was brutal and if you’d like to go back to that, you do you. I’ll stay right here, thank you very much

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        Lol, just delete it and say that I hmdont know what I’m talking about. Great way to not having to consider other opinions, or, you know, facts

        But at least you’re not stuck in an echo chamber, right ?

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      Your comment consists of 0 facts, an ableist slur, and a recommendation to watch a work of fiction designed specifically to push an anticommunist narrative. Moreover, the assertion that I must not have read is silly, I linked an article and a full history book in my comment, and have a Marxist reading list linked on my profile with a mix of theory and historical texts. Why would anyone take what you have said seriously?

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        Enjoy your echo chamber where Stalin was a good guy who was just misunderstood.

        I’d have a conversation but as it’s clear that any dissenting opinions will be immediately deleted, can’t risk anyone getting wrong think now, just like in the good ol’ Soviet Union, it’s clear you don’t want to hear facts, you just want your insane ideas reinforced.

        If you were really right, my comment would not have been deleted.

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          What facts did you provide? Why do you believe removal proves you right? All you did was recommend anticommunist fiction and wag your finger, lmao.

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        If you really want to understand communism, watch G.P.U. I guarantee that by the ending, you’ll revise every single thing with which your cultural Marxist masters indoctrinated you.