• wandermind@sopuli.xyz
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    13 days ago

    So do I understand your point correctly, that what NATO has done is wrong, and therefore what Russia is doing is also wrong?

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        13 days ago

        Then we don’t disagree.

        Do we also agree that, as a hypothetical, even though both sides do things which are wrong, both sides can also sometimes do things which are good?

        And, again as a hypothetical, do we agree that one of these good things is helping a third country which is the victim to one of the wrongs of the other country?

        Such as the Soviet Union helping the Vietnamese fight off the Americans.

        Or America helping Ukraine fight off Russia.

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          13 days ago

          Nope. We don’t agree. The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. Their existence does no good whatsoever.

          And the US isn’t “helping.” The US manufactured this proxy war, and they’re using Ukrainians as bullet fodder for their regional goals.

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            13 days ago

            If the US manufactured this war, why does Putin keep at it? Why does he keep playing into US hands? Isn’t continuing this war what the US wants from him?

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                13 days ago

                Lots of countries bordering Russia tolerate Russian military positions across the border without invading.

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                  13 days ago

                  The difference is that’s their border. It’s not a NATO/US border, and they had specific agreements against that aggression.

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                    13 days ago

                    Many of the countries consider Russia untrustworthy if not outright hostile, like Russia considers NATO, so following Russian standards all the reason for an invasion would be there.