Who will replace the young people that Clinton regards as dunces? In 2016, the pitch was made to suburban Republicans of the Never Trump persuasion. In 2024, this has been recast as the Biden campaign’s attempts to appeal to Nikki Haley Republicans. This strategy only makes sense as a response to Biden’s loss of support among young people and nonwhite voters.
Clintonian triangulation failed in 2016, and it will fail again in 2024. You simply can’t win as a Democratic presidential candidate by giving the back of your hand to large parts of your own coalition. Joe Biden understood that in 2020—but tragically seems to be suffering from memory loss in 2024.
That’s just a spot on analysis.
There are no Republicans that will vote for Joe Biden.
There are voters who will vote Joe Biden if he moves to go get them.
This isn’t complicated.
There were enough Republicans who voted for Biden in '20 to flip Georgia, which is solidly “mainstream” Republican (e.g. Reagan Republicans).
The article’s analysis of why Hillary lost is correct, and the diagnosis of the failures of Clintonism is also correct. They fail to point out that Clinton “won” '92 because Perot pulled away enough Bush votes in enough states to swing the Electoral College to Clinton, who only got 40% of the popular vote. That “victory” somehow convinced a bunch of Democrats that conservatism without bigotry (or at least less) was the key to electoral success. Clinton got reelected with the power of incumbency and BobDole being a fairly weak candidate. That cemented the conservatism lite in the Democratic Party for a generation, many of whom are still in the party.
It’s changing though. Biden is not a classic conservative Democrat anymore, or at least his team and policies aren’t.
One big thing they need to do is acknowledge that the system is rigged against the non wealthy, and that small-d democracy as it exists today in America is not up to the task of helping the non wealthy. Then they need to propose ways to fix our broken democracy, ask young people for suggestions for how to fix it, and write some binding policy proposals to implement those fixes.
Because right now Trump and the Republicans are acknowledging that our democracy is failing non wealthy (straight white Christian) people, and the solution they’re offering is to do away with it entirely in favor of Hungarian or Russian style authoritarianism.
The first part of that message will resonate, and the “help us fix democracy” part needs to be the 2nd half. Or Trump probably will get reelected.
I think what you meant to say was, that demographics of typically non-voting, but potentially Democrat voters, were activated in 2020, to flip GA.
No Republicans flipped to make GA go blue. It was massive turn out from black and youth voters.
The idea that Republicans do ‘flip’ or will ever ‘flip’ is a damaging fiction.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/georgia-demographic-shift-vote-democrat-republican-1.5794314
and the solution they’re offering is to do away with it entirely in favor of Hungarian or Russian style authoritarianism.
Where do you get this from?
He’s just making it up. Republicans going to Biden didn’t flip GA. An activated youth and black vote flipped GA.
I agree with the article except for this part:
Joe Biden’s success in 2020 was due in no small part to his deliberate rejection of Clinton’s failed strategy. “Scranton Joe” courted both Sanders voters and blue-collar whites. He promised expanded infrastructure spending and tougher trade deals. Progressive young people might not have given Biden their votes in the primaries, but he campaigned as a candidate who saw them as part of his coalition and duly won their votes on Election Day.
I think the main reason Biden won in 2020 is because of COVID. That and correctly recognizing that people despise both him and Trump and realizing that if he simply stays out of the limelight people won’t pay as much attention to how bad he is. Neither of these factors are working for him now, it’s much harder to stay out of the limelight when you’re the one in charge.
I suppose there may have been less open hostility towards the left compared to Clinton, but only because that’s such a low bar.
I also believe COVID played a huge role. People were like “Trump is an idiot and is going to get us all killed!” so they went with Biden. Then Biden did ok for awhile then some of us had to die for the economy. :(
And everyone is bitching about the state of the economy now. You think it would have been better off if we had extended even longer the conditions that led to the inflation?
I thought you were banned?
Temp 30 day ban from the main politics channel
Ah, so now you’re evading it by shitting here with the same tactics instead.
Seems like a good way to earn a permanent instance-wide ban to me. Good luck with that.
Ah, good point. I guess your harboring of trolls like him is why people are increasingly calling for defederating from your instance entirely.
enjoy living in your circlejerks safe from any outside opinions