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minus-squaresircac@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·22 days agoJust be tolerant with the tolerants while intolerant with the intolerants, like a prisioner dilema strategy
minus-squarespujb@lemmy.cafeOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·22 days agoyup! it’s quite simple and i wish the internet wasn’t so primed to cite the paradox posing a problem rather than saying the solution i see people get confused by the paradox all the time, because they are used to the concept of the logical kind of paradox which has no solution. but the concept of the social contract is intuitive. easy peasy.
minus-squareSome Universal Friend(s)@lemmy.blahaj.zonelinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·22 days agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner’s_dilemma#Axelrod’s_tournament_and_successful_strategy_conditions
minus-squareVoroxpete@sh.itjust.workslinkfedilinkarrow-up0·22 days agoThat is, in fact, exactly what Poppler’s paradox of tolerance says.
minus-squarespujb@lemmy.cafeOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·22 days agoi agree with what it says. i just don’t think it’s good as an educational tool for introducing people to the concept.
minus-squareZess@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up0·22 days agoI’m not sure what concept you’re trying to introduce to people, but if they don’t understand the paradox of tolerance then you aren’t explaining it very well because it’s extremely easy to understand.
minus-squarespujb@lemmy.cafeOPlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up0·21 days agotell that to the 9373626 internet arguments i’ve seen misunderstanding it and saying “its a paradox there is no solution” lol
Just be tolerant with the tolerants while intolerant with the intolerants, like a prisioner dilema strategy
yup! it’s quite simple and i wish the internet wasn’t so primed to cite the paradox posing a problem rather than saying the solution
i see people get confused by the paradox all the time, because they are used to the concept of the logical kind of paradox which has no solution.
but the concept of the social contract is intuitive. easy peasy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prisoner’s_dilemma#Axelrod’s_tournament_and_successful_strategy_conditions
That is, in fact, exactly what Poppler’s paradox of tolerance says.
i agree with what it says. i just don’t think it’s good as an educational tool for introducing people to the concept.
I’m not sure what concept you’re trying to introduce to people, but if they don’t understand the paradox of tolerance then you aren’t explaining it very well because it’s extremely easy to understand.
tell that to the 9373626 internet arguments i’ve seen misunderstanding it and saying “its a paradox there is no solution” lol