• FiniteBanjo@lemmy.today
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    4 months ago

    Maybe a loophole in Russian demands for them to stay out of NATO?

    Or maybe Russia won’t care because they already plan on advancing into Europe.

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      4 months ago

      Who gives a single fuck what Russia wants or is okay with. Ukraine is a sovereign nation and can decide for themselves who to align themselves with.

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        4 months ago

        Well, listen, if I were a Ukrainian military or political leader and I saw an opportunity to have a well enforced ceasefire and then I could STILL join a large military coalition to prevent any further conflicts, then I would take that deal. The real curiosity here is if Russia respects the capabilities of the EU military or if they are only deterred by NATO.

        I think these are topics worth discussing in depth to reduce loss of human lives now and in the far future as much as possible.

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          4 months ago

          the EU military

          This isn’t a thing. I mean yes we do have like 60 000 soldiers in some rapid reaction force, but there is no “EU military” to speak of.

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              4 months ago

              That’s the French Navy, not the “EU military”. The EU is not a military alliance, there is really no EU military to speak of, just the militaries of member states who may or may not have any intention or capability of aiding others. Like I said, there are about 60 000 “EU soldiers” under the Common Security and Defence Policy, but they’re more for peacekeeping missions.

              NATO is pretty much the closest thing there is to an EU military, as a huge percentage of the member states belong to it as well.

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                4 months ago

                The EU has a mutual defence clause, if an outside nation attacked a member then the French Navy would be EU Navy. The only exception to this would be inter-member conflicts.