I feel this is a bit disingenuous. The original Steam forum post said:
when straight comin out.
Calling that even a complaint is beyond me, and mocking the poster seems unnecessary. I don’t understand the intention behind this new title. As purely a joke against that forum post, I guess, but are they trying to mock straight sexuality?
If I can express my sexuality if I’m gay, why refuse that same ability if I’m not? Maybe I’m interpreting too much into it, but I don’t find it funny. I like it when people can be proudly and openly gay/trans/bi, but I don’t see why I can’t also be proudly straight. Or in other words, this game now gives me the message “if you are not LGBT, it’s not for you” which I guess is fine if that’s what they want.
but I don’t see why I can’t also be proudly straight
Ignoring all the power dynamics reasons why this is nonsensical, what does straight pride look like to you? What exactly are you being denied in terms of self-expression or inclusion?
The absence of a need to feel ashamed for being straight, for starters. Gay pride exists to remove the need for LGBT+ people to feel ashamed for being so, or feel a need to hide it. A mocking “Straight” title implies I now need to feel ashamed for being straight. I’m saying that misses the point entirely, and vilifies straightness instead. Certainly doesn’t help gay pride. If you ask me, it feels petty at best.
its ok to vilify straightness hope this helps. you are not oppressed in any way for being straight lmao. this is the “complaining about anti-white racism” of misunderstanding sexuality power dynamics. queer people are telling you to shut up and you’re doubling down on your chauvinism, consider you suck!
If you never leave the online world then the only oppression you can know is being called mean words. That’s the only way these people can justify what they’re saying. Dang, someone called you a cissy and you don’t get a little ‘straight’ title in a game? Awesome! Hope this brutal oppression keeps going!
Yeah and that behavior is how the queer community loses straight allies.
When you require people to vote in your favor for your personal safety and survival, maybe don’t throw shit in their face. At some point they’ll say “fuck it, you’re on your own.”
I must confess that over the past few years I have been gravely disappointed with the straight moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Gays’ great stumbling block in his stride toward freedom is not the Super Straight or the Super Happy Fun American, but the straight moderate, who is more devoted to ‘order’ than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says: “I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I cannot agree with your methods of direct action”; who paternalistically believes he can set the timetable for another person’s freedom; who lives by a mythical concept of time and who constantly advises the Gay to wait for a “more convenient season.” Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
Sorta. They’re pointing out the fact is the default is straight, if you want to scream it at people well that’ll cost you some money.
It’s dumb, super petty and ultimately inane as are most identity politics. I get the point to an extent but anything to either extreme gets a bit grating and irritating.
The only reason “gay pride” exists in the first place is in reaction to oppression. The straights have in no way been suppressed, and “straight pride” is nothing but a backlash to gay liberation.
Maybe we have a different view on what pride means, but I see no reason to be ashamed of being straight, the same I see no reason to be ashamed of being white, the same I see no reason to be ashamed of being gay, the same I see no reason to be ashamed of being black. LGBT+ inclusion is not the same as straight exclusion. Gay pride, from what I understand, at its core is about being proud of yourself and not having to hide your ethnicity. That goes both ways, and I sure as hell would feel like I’m being shamed for being straight in this game. Not a great message is it?
Like I’m genuinely trying to understand here. How is shaming straights helping gay pride?
you know “straight pride” is in the same category of thing as “male pride” and “white pride”, right? it’s a homophobic thing to invoke. nobody cares that you’re part of the hegemonic sexuality group, it’s not something to be proud of.
If I’m not allowed to be proud of myself, then what am I supposed to be? Ashamed? I feel proud about myself, the things I accomplished, the person I am. I had a friend once who didn’t tell us that he’s gay for ~3 years because he felt like he’d be made fun of. Of course we didn’t, but I feel appalling he felt like that. Yet I don’t agree with the sentiment that that means I need to hide my own sexuality, or am somehow not allowed to display it openly, and I especially don’t agree with doing so being homophobic.
nobody cares that you’re part of the hegemonic sexuality group
nor do I care if you are gay, so why the need to display it? Because it’d be god awful if you felt like you needed to hide it, and the ability to display it implies the absence of such need. I’m not saying there should’ve been a “Straight” title, I’m saying adding one that’s mocking me, trying to make me feel ashamed, ain’t the right message.
I feel this is a bit disingenuous. The original Steam forum post said:
Calling that even a complaint is beyond me, and mocking the poster seems unnecessary. I don’t understand the intention behind this new title. As purely a joke against that forum post, I guess, but are they trying to mock straight sexuality?
If I can express my sexuality if I’m gay, why refuse that same ability if I’m not? Maybe I’m interpreting too much into it, but I don’t find it funny. I like it when people can be proudly and openly gay/trans/bi, but I don’t see why I can’t also be proudly straight. Or in other words, this game now gives me the message “if you are not LGBT, it’s not for you” which I guess is fine if that’s what they want.
Ignoring all the power dynamics reasons why this is nonsensical, what does straight pride look like to you? What exactly are you being denied in terms of self-expression or inclusion?
The absence of a need to feel ashamed for being straight, for starters. Gay pride exists to remove the need for LGBT+ people to feel ashamed for being so, or feel a need to hide it. A mocking “Straight” title implies I now need to feel ashamed for being straight. I’m saying that misses the point entirely, and vilifies straightness instead. Certainly doesn’t help gay pride. If you ask me, it feels petty at best.
The whole system is built around you being straight, idiot. You aren’t oppressed.
Follow-up question: Are you literally a baby in a diaper?
its ok to vilify straightness hope this helps. you are not oppressed in any way for being straight lmao. this is the “complaining about anti-white racism” of misunderstanding sexuality power dynamics. queer people are telling you to shut up and you’re doubling down on your chauvinism, consider
you suck!
If you never leave the online world then the only oppression you can know is being called mean words. That’s the only way these people can justify what they’re saying. Dang, someone called you a cissy and you don’t get a little ‘straight’ title in a game? Awesome! Hope this brutal oppression keeps going!
Yeah and that behavior is how the queer community loses straight allies.
When you require people to vote in your favor for your personal safety and survival, maybe don’t throw shit in their face. At some point they’ll say “fuck it, you’re on your own.”
— Martin Luther Queen Jr., probably
Yes
Sorta. They’re pointing out the fact is the default is straight, if you want to scream it at people well that’ll cost you some money.
It’s dumb, super petty and ultimately inane as are most identity politics. I get the point to an extent but anything to either extreme gets a bit grating and irritating.
Do you hear yourself? “I don’t see why I can’t also be proudly white.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straight_pride
The only reason “gay pride” exists in the first place is in reaction to oppression. The straights have in no way been suppressed, and “straight pride” is nothing but a backlash to gay liberation.
Maybe we have a different view on what pride means, but I see no reason to be ashamed of being straight, the same I see no reason to be ashamed of being white, the same I see no reason to be ashamed of being gay, the same I see no reason to be ashamed of being black. LGBT+ inclusion is not the same as straight exclusion. Gay pride, from what I understand, at its core is about being proud of yourself and not having to hide your ethnicity. That goes both ways, and I sure as hell would feel like I’m being shamed for being straight in this game. Not a great message is it?
Like I’m genuinely trying to understand here. How is shaming straights helping gay pride?
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you know “straight pride” is in the same category of thing as “male pride” and “white pride”, right? it’s a homophobic thing to invoke. nobody cares that you’re part of the hegemonic sexuality group, it’s not something to be proud of.
If I’m not allowed to be proud of myself, then what am I supposed to be? Ashamed? I feel proud about myself, the things I accomplished, the person I am. I had a friend once who didn’t tell us that he’s gay for ~3 years because he felt like he’d be made fun of. Of course we didn’t, but I feel appalling he felt like that. Yet I don’t agree with the sentiment that that means I need to hide my own sexuality, or am somehow not allowed to display it openly, and I especially don’t agree with doing so being homophobic.
nor do I care if you are gay, so why the need to display it? Because it’d be god awful if you felt like you needed to hide it, and the ability to display it implies the absence of such need. I’m not saying there should’ve been a “Straight” title, I’m saying adding one that’s mocking me, trying to make me feel ashamed, ain’t the right message.
explains it better than i could, hope this helps