The genocide in Myanmar is massive scale and has been going for a long time now. The Indian north east pertains to the Indian government not to Myanmar.
Yes, and my point is that Myanmar is a very close ally of China. It’s doubtful that China cares about genocide, and it’s obvious that they had no moral high ground to stand on back in 1962, when they began fighting over Arunachal, when all of India was equally undeveloped.
Just because the BJP sucks, it doesn’t mean that China is right. That’s simplistic thinking.
The USA admin almost nuked india at that time. It doesn’t side with china out of hatred to the usa siding with pak. Pak is also a china ally now. It sides cause it wants to trade anyway.
Ok, now follow that thought to its logical conclusion: was free trade with China a big issue in 1962? No! Neither China nor India could barely even keep their people alive at that point, let alone do significant business! And China was still invading Arunachal back then too! So even trying to pin this on India’s tariffs/refusal to parttake in belt&road doesn’t make any sense.
“The USA admin almost nuked india at that time” Okay, now use that same clear-headed thinking towards the China issue: The world’s up-and-coming superpower wants to claim your province which feeds 600 million people in your country. Is that not comparable to getting nuked?
None of your arguments hold any water. Sangh/RSS didn’t exist in 1962. BJP didn’t exist in 1962. China trading with people wasn’t a thing in 1962. Belt and Road didn’t exist in 1962.
The end of story is that the Arunachal problem is ultimately China’s fault, even if India has given them some moral-high-ground ammo in the last few decades. China could easily resolve it peacefully if it really wanted to (I hope they do!)
I’m Dravidian, eat beef, and pork, and hate the BJP but blaming everything on the Indian government means you don’t understand history. I personally find the Jaishankar fanboyism cringe also
I feel like I’m talking over you. I didn’t say china is right or whatever. I said north east front doesn’t factor into current push against china and people like sankar don’t really have much to say beyond the western push. That is the gist.
I didn’t say bjp bad china good. I outlined what the admin under bjp is like towards north east.
I think my comment in about usa nuke and the follow up line was unlcear. I was just saying time has shifted since then and pak was the concentration rather than china leading into war on terror. I didn’t mean trade in 60s, I meant India doesn’t mind china allying with pak, cause they wanna trade. Not in 60s sorry. I meant currently.
Again my whole comment was to say India currently doesn’t need the war in 62 to push for war now. They just wanna push western word now at this point. If it comes to any confrontation they probably want to redefine borders and steamroll china. It won’t probably get to it. That is all I meant. But I’m sure they want to negotiate since 2020.
Sangh/RSS didn’t exist in 1962.
This is probably the most laughably untrue I have read. When do you think they started existing lol. Sorry but Indian fascism rose around 1920s along with other movements in europe like italian or german. Savarkar one of the pillars of the movements wrote his framework in 1923. That was very central and instrumental for hedgewar who founded rss 2 years after (savarkar published in '23) in 1925.
When I mentioned sangh in my comment I was talking how they conduct their affairs along north east. And how they want to shape it. Like caa or with manipur currently.
I only contextualized north east india and the current way its dealt by the administration in my comment. But I will reiterate. People like sankar want a war at behest of the west and as much a western war hawk would. And he doesn’t need the border issue to rattle it cause the radio free asia shit is good enough.
None of what I mentioned was ahistoric. I don’t blame everything on Bjp.
Yes, and my point is that Myanmar is a very close ally of China. It’s doubtful that China cares about genocide, and it’s obvious that they had no moral high ground to stand on back in 1962, when they began fighting over Arunachal, when all of India was equally undeveloped.
Just because the BJP sucks, it doesn’t mean that China is right. That’s simplistic thinking.
Ok, now follow that thought to its logical conclusion: was free trade with China a big issue in 1962? No! Neither China nor India could barely even keep their people alive at that point, let alone do significant business! And China was still invading Arunachal back then too! So even trying to pin this on India’s tariffs/refusal to parttake in belt&road doesn’t make any sense.
“The USA admin almost nuked india at that time” Okay, now use that same clear-headed thinking towards the China issue: The world’s up-and-coming superpower wants to claim your province which feeds 600 million people in your country. Is that not comparable to getting nuked?
None of your arguments hold any water. Sangh/RSS didn’t exist in 1962. BJP didn’t exist in 1962. China trading with people wasn’t a thing in 1962. Belt and Road didn’t exist in 1962.
The end of story is that the Arunachal problem is ultimately China’s fault, even if India has given them some moral-high-ground ammo in the last few decades. China could easily resolve it peacefully if it really wanted to (I hope they do!)
I’m Dravidian, eat beef, and pork, and hate the BJP but blaming everything on the Indian government means you don’t understand history. I personally find the Jaishankar fanboyism cringe also
I feel like I’m talking over you. I didn’t say china is right or whatever. I said north east front doesn’t factor into current push against china and people like sankar don’t really have much to say beyond the western push. That is the gist.
I didn’t say bjp bad china good. I outlined what the admin under bjp is like towards north east.
I think my comment in about usa nuke and the follow up line was unlcear. I was just saying time has shifted since then and pak was the concentration rather than china leading into war on terror. I didn’t mean trade in 60s, I meant India doesn’t mind china allying with pak, cause they wanna trade. Not in 60s sorry. I meant currently.
Again my whole comment was to say India currently doesn’t need the war in 62 to push for war now. They just wanna push western word now at this point. If it comes to any confrontation they probably want to redefine borders and steamroll china. It won’t probably get to it. That is all I meant. But I’m sure they want to negotiate since 2020.
This is probably the most laughably untrue I have read. When do you think they started existing lol. Sorry but Indian fascism rose around 1920s along with other movements in europe like italian or german. Savarkar one of the pillars of the movements wrote his framework in 1923. That was very central and instrumental for hedgewar who founded rss 2 years after (savarkar published in '23) in 1925.
When I mentioned sangh in my comment I was talking how they conduct their affairs along north east. And how they want to shape it. Like caa or with manipur currently.
I only contextualized north east india and the current way its dealt by the administration in my comment. But I will reiterate. People like sankar want a war at behest of the west and as much a western war hawk would. And he doesn’t need the border issue to rattle it cause the radio free asia shit is good enough.
None of what I mentioned was ahistoric. I don’t blame everything on Bjp.
Is there any evidence of this? How could a river that feeds a third of your population not factor into a conflict?
sure, he’s a clown, and if the border issue didn’t exist he might try to make one anyway.
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