Paul Cantrell (@[email protected])
hachyderm.io
So…there is a concerted campaign, with Musk as its mouthpiece, to discredit Signal and get people to switch to Telegram. It’s disinformation, but there’s also useful information in it. The useful information is that a hideous, powerful, right-wing crank — or whoever’s yanking his chain — really, really wants people to use Telegram. We’ve long known Telegram’s security is weak. But now, in light of this new information, we should move forward assuming that Telegram is actively compromised.
  • The Doctor@beehaw.orgEnglish
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    6 months ago

    They do this periodically. We saw it during Occupy, the Arab Spring, BLM, now Palestine (again). As a general rule, when folks go into the streets, the tighty righties start up the FUD.

    There is a reason why spooks learn tradecraft - threat modeling, procedures, awareness, and techniques - more than they learn technology. It would behoove folks to to learn a little about that before hitting up the appstore.

    • Rose@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      Its Russian founder recently praised Musk in an interview for Tucker Carlson.

  • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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    6 months ago

    telegram is the real FUD here. its closed, not encrypted by default and all messages go through a centralized server.

    • rdri@lemmy.world
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      6 months ago

      not encrypted by default

      Not e2e encrypted ≠ not encrypted.

      its closed

      Client is open source and you can use your own client with custom functionality if you like. I imagine nothing stops anyone from adding their own e2e implementations on top of it.

      • Brayd@discuss.tchncs.de
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        6 months ago

        SSL on websites also is encryption. Still you can post your precious pictures “encrypted” via SSL for the whole world to see. I think everyone knew what was meant with encryption in this context.

        • rdri@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          I think everyone knew what was meant with encryption in this context.

          I think not.

      • umbrella@lemmy.ml
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        6 months ago

        i know but neither encryption, nor foss clients matter much if it has to go through a closed server. thats kind of half the point of encrypting stuff. at least telegram supports it but cmon.

        its like saying facebook is private because your browser is foss and you use https.

        • rdri@lemmy.world
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          6 months ago

          Anything goes through closed servers. Even more, serverless chat protocols tend to go through multiple users PCs (they are not open to you).

          point of encrypting stuff. at least telegram supports it

          I’m pretty sure telegram doesn’t support plaintext transfers.

          its like saying facebook is private

          I didn’t call telegram private.

  • Possibly linux@lemmy.zipEnglish
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    6 months ago

    I don’t think it has anything to do with the “right wingers.” I think many people and governments seek to discredit anything they can not control. Its basic misinformation tactics.

    As far as Elon goes, he says crazy things and shouldn’t be believed.

  • friend_of_satan@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    6 months ago

    Talks about other people creating FUD, then links to a post asserting telegram is compromised without citing any sources about anything discussed in the post. 🙄 FUD indeed.