MSI Bravo 15 A4DDR Gaming & Design CPU : AMD Ryzen 7 4800H 2.9GHz (16 CPUs) Ram : 16GB DDR4 3200 MHz Hardisk : M.2 512GB Nvme SSD VGA 1 : AMD Radeon™ Graphics UpTo 8GB VGA 2 : AMD Radeon RX 5500M UpTo 12GB

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    10 days ago

    Honestly build quality matters more than specs if you’re not gaming in my opinion, that’s why old thinkpads are so popular

    I personally got burned by a shitty modern laptop because I only looked at the specs and nothing else

    I’m talking about things like:

    • chassis sturdiness
    • laptop foot grippiness
    • hinge quality
    • touchpad quality/has trackpoint
    • battery longevity (very important)
    • display colour accuracy/viewing angles
    • keyboard tactility/travel/flex

    These things are harder to research but they’re imo way more important than specs

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      10 days ago

      I bought a modern MSI gaming laptop with awesome on-paper specs and they did something fucky such that the keyboard doesn’t work until about kernel v6.7. The keyboard. Wtf.

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      Yeah I’ve fallen into this trap before as well. When I shop for a desktop, I tend to go as high-end as I can afford and then sit on the same machine for 7-10 years until it becomes unusable/support begins to wain. That desktop sits under my desk and doesn’t move that whole time, it is in a very controlled environment.

      You cannot shop that way for a laptop that will be moved and handled and charged and stowed and scratched and bumped and bent and twisted. Even if you take excellent care of it.

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        Then you gotta go framework. The ports are all swappable. When you break a port like hdmi you’re basically fucked on a standard laptop. And laptops falling off places is basically guaranteed

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    I have an MSI Bravo 17 for work since this month,
    quite happy about it so far.

    My experience with MSI is best price/value for hardware specs, but with shitty build quality.

    However this one feels quite sturdy compared to earlier MSI laptops.

    It can get loud under heavy duty,
    but it goes quiet again under low workload,
    for now at least, my previous MSI laptop sounded like a jet engine whenever it was powered on.

    The one you posted seems particularly suited to run Linux upon, since it’s an all AMD machine, and their Linux support is great.

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      10 days ago

      Oh cool, I’ll get it then hopefully it didn’t sole out because at that price it’s a steal in my country

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    10 days ago

    I haven’t worked on this particular model, but gaming laptop build quality is generally very bad.

    Msi build quality is also generally pretty bad.

    With that said, most people don’t need build quality because they don’t actually take their computers anywhere.

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    My husband has had an MSI bravo for a few years. Uses it constantly, and it’s great. No issues outta it whatsoever. However, he does not use Linux on it. He prefers to dual boot and the SSD is a little small for that (if you also want to install games).

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    The CPU is a pretty good one, the GPU is on the weaker side. You can run plenty of games on it, but AAA games wont run very well. This thing isnt very old and AMD GPUs are well supported by linux drivers so there shouldnt be an issue there.

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      I heard the GPU is comparable to RTX 30series laptop which is 3X the price of this laptop and also nice to have good driver supporting :D

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        comparable to RTX 30series

        That sadly doesnt mean anything. That would range from 3050 to 3090 so its meaningless.

        According to userbenchmarks, the more powerful desktop version of the RX 5500 is still weaker than a Nvidia 3050. https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-3050-vs-AMD-RX-5500/4127vs4059

        So its pretty weak, comparable to a Nvidia 1060 roughly. Which is still fine for 2D games and most 3D games at low settings.

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          I’m not really sure, but wasn’t userbenchmark biased in favor of nvidia gpu?

          In any case, I agree that an rx5500 is on the weaker side, so don’t expect much, but it shouldn’t be a lot worse than an rtx3050 (i’m not an expert tho)

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            Yeah there was something there but its still in the right league at least. It might change the ranking slightly but it wont change that its at the low end.

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              Yup, no doubts there.

              Anyway, OP, if I were you I’d buy that laptop (not for gaming tho, or at least not if you’re looking for something more than “good enough”)

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    I have the b5dd model (with the 5600h processor) and linux support is good. Just find out what is the make and model of the wifi card. B55D came with a mediatek card which had problems with older kernels.

    Build quality is average at best and it is fairly heavy but when you are going for a budget laptop, you have to sacrifice something. As another commenter said, if you are not gaming or video editing, you could go for different model with a smaller footprint, and better build.