• queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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    In addition to the first Israeli migrants being Europeans, they displaced the actual indigenous population that was native to the land. The Muslim and Christian populations are mostly descendents from ancient Israelis that converted.

    Israel is basically just the US, which is why they’re such strong allies. They have the same roots.

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      they displaced the actual indigenous population that was native to the land.

      They also sterilized a bunch of Ethiopian and Mizrahi Jews, on the grounds that these non-European ethinic cohorts were having too many kids.

      Incidentally, Israel government has been grappling with a big childlessness crisis which threatens to tank their Jewish population.

      One big reason for the genocide in Gaza (which has been in effect since 2006, but recently hit a fevered pitch) is that - despite their best efforts - the Israeli government has failed to neuter the Palestinian population growth rate.

      So much of Israeli policy boils down to white nationalist eugenics.

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        Source (on the first bit in particular)? I mean, that’s easy to believe, given the behaviour of other European colonists in other places, but also not the kind of thing I’d want to claim without references.

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          The things to look up are Beta Israel (a lost tribe who were discovered in Ethiopia) and Operation Solomon (how they wound up in Israel). From there, you might find some answers from Israeli sources or elsewhere. I’ve similarly heard this assertion/rumour that the women of Beta Israel were sterilised after their incredible discovery and rescue, but haven’t seen authoritative sources for either side. Still, this should be an interesting rabbit hole to go down.

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          Someone last time this came up linked to a report, I think from Hareetz, into an Israeli government investigation that did indeed find that Beta Israeli women Were sterilised without consent en mass.

          Don’t have a link handy, but that should be enough to dig it up.

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      The Jewish communities of Zfat, Gaza (yea, that one pre 1929) would disagree. They lived there for hundreds of years.

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          Everyone migrated to Israel, it’s literally an ancient migration route.

          In more modern times, Israel had many Jewish communities that the local Muslims tried to eradicate. Some of them successfully, and in such cases the local Palestinians are migrants that kicked off the local Jews.

          So to be accurate, the first mass migration of Jewish communities into Israel in modern times happened from Eastern Europe and Yemen.

          We need to differentiate, as at the same time, Muslims migrated too into Israel. Some of them got royally fucked by history, they left the little they had, migrated for better work and were left with nothing for generations.

          • queermunist she/her@lemmy.ml
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            The region has been a site of religious, not ethnic, conflict. Jews that converted to Islam were able to stay in the Caliphate, the idea that all ethnic Jews were expelled is a myth. There was a lot of emigration, but the truth is that many of the Muslim Palestinians today are descendants of ancient Jewish people.

            Claiming that Palestinians are just invaders that stole Jewish land is bad history.