• Naryn@lemmy.world
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    No shit no one alive “did anything”*, it’s a euphemism for a part of history,

    No, it’s not. It’s you actively blaming current Australian people for actions of people who lived generations ago.

    It’s okay insecure white man,

    Ah yes, and I’m the racist.

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      I never said you were racist, I joked about Aboriginal people showing up with a deed to your house.

      You feeling blamed when I’m saying it’s a historical injustice, not a matter of modern theift, isn’t the same thing as me having blamed you.

      I don’t even know you, you’re just some stranger on the Internet.

      Pointing out this history of the country is just being honest. The people who can’t handle that are the ones being dishonest.

      Anyways, if you need to lie and misrepresent the basic positions of the discussion, and the terms involved - I think that shows you’re not operating from reason.

      So like I was saying, there was no reasonable case made by the No campaign during The Voice.

      You feeling accused, isn the same as a reason, because reason operates on actual statements and substantial facts, not mischaracterisations and tangential FEELINGS.

      It’s normal to have feelings, so sorry you let yours cloud your reasonable judgement of the actual facts and arguments being made. In that particular case (and that alone as far as I can tell) you ARE guilty.

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        You feeling blamed when I’m saying it’s a historical injustice

        When you say “we stole their land” then yes, it’s not a historical injustice, it’s a modern one.

        Pointing out this history of the country is just being honest.

        The history is irrelevant.

        Either we are all equal. Or people have more rights based on their ethnicity than others, which is racial superiority, which is exactly what you’re asking for.

        like I was saying, there was no reasonable case made by the No campaign during The Voice

        That’s because of your political views that see you blame white people for the ills of everything that’s wrong today.

        It’s normal to have feelings, so sorry you let yours cloud your reasonable judgement of the actual facts and arguments being made

        Christ you’re really on it with the accusations of me being the emotional one when you’re the person who can’t seemingly understand why deciding rights based off of ethnicity is a bad thing.

        You’re a racist. Plain and simple. As was the whole and entire Yes campaign.

        You don’t and shouldn’t get treated with special privilege because of your skin colour. Everyone in Australia is equal regardless, and it should stay that way.

        This constant victimhood screeching by you is not factual, it is pure emotional and based in nothing but fantasy

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          That’s because of your political views that see you blame white people

          No, your political views see that REGARDLESS of what I say, what links I provide to the Stolden Generations phenomena still being on going, legally quantified and RACIALLY MOTIVATED as recently as the 1970s your still going to pretend I’m claiming your were involved with that, or that all white people, are therefore to blame.

          But you probably weren’t involved with it directly… You’re just denying that it would impact modern Aboriginal people and communities still… You’re saying “the victims we’re talking about - shouldn’t feel victimized by being, or having had relatives forcibly taken from their families.”

          Your saying “nah, that’s ‘equality’ - they were treated equal.”

          You’re preaching cultural ignorance of the impact history has on a people.

          You’re being a fuckin Racist, and that’s why YOU voted no. Because you don’t know jack shit about Australia, which is why you’re pushing AMERICAN victimhood culture here.

          You’re doing a claim to white victimhood and pretending it’s about all histories being equal. I was willing to talk to you, and give you the benefit of the doubt.

          But I guessed right about you from the start when I said people jump to unjustified assertions, and that’s a trend on the right wing (particularly in America)… And now you’ve shown yourself as doing exactly that.

          “We should ignor recent history because I’m a dumb ass and think no ones effected by it” -Dumb ass right wing Americans and this guy.

          So it turns out, yes I do think you’re a racist now, and I do think the voice was about helping communities of RURAL Aboriginal people have more of a voice (hence the name) would have been a good thing.

          I’m not a dishonest coward like you, I can look history and inequality in the face without pretending it’s some attack on “white people” (P.S that’s not a real race or country, there’s no nation or culture by that name) or a racial take over. Bizzare assumptions you’re hiding behind, just like you’re sweeping racism within living memory under the rug - pretending cultural difference have no modern effects on people.

          It’s utterly dishonest bullshit… And yeah, I’m not going to spend my time talking to scum like you.

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            (P.S that’s not a real race or country, there’s no nation or culture by that name) or

            “I’m not racist”

            Is the epitome of racism.