A new poll suggests that Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein is drawing more voters from former President Donald Trump than from Vice President Kamala Harris.

According to a Noble Predictive Insights survey released last week, Harris holds a narrow lead over Trump in a hypothetical three-way race. With Stein on the ballot, Harris’ lead expands, pointing to a potential spoiler effect similar to what many Democrats blamed Stein for doing to Hillary Clinton in the 2016 election.

For Trump, the emergence of Stein as a potential spoiler may be a critical factor in battleground states, where even a small shift in votes could determine the outcome. For Harris, Stein’s candidacy could paradoxically provide an unexpected advantage, drawing votes from Trump and narrowing his pathway to victory.

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    Your position is far more rigid than most. But you dont realize it. 🤷 “You must vote this way” give everyone a break and go back to your moronic cave. If harris or trump wants someones vote they need to earn it through policies. Like not being genocidal weirdos.

    Yes fptp has mathematical properties but heres the thing: people dont care and refusing to acknowledge that fact makes you doomed to failure. Go spend your energy getting fptp replaced.

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      So your response is to insult me and tell me to fix everything? I can see I’m dealing with a true scholar here.

      I’m simply pointing out that you can have an impact on the outcome or not. You don’t have to like that reality, I don’t, the it doesn’t make it anyb less true.

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        I simply pointed out the logical flaws in your thought process. If that insults you 🤷. Lifes rough, find a better use of your time solving the problems with the process than bitching at people who think your ideology is shit and then being surprised when they tell you so.

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          Telling me what I do and don’t realize is insulting. It would be like me saying you don’t realize that you’re possibly hurting millions of people so you can keep a moral high ground.

          I don’t care about ideology and dogmatic shit like that. I care about facts and logic. And the hard fact is Harris or Trump will be president. That’s fact. You can rationalize all you want but you have a choice between the two, and a chance to impact the outcome but are choosing not to. This is the trolly problem where you sit back and watch the randomized switch because you’re against killing people. You could choose the rail that would cause less suffering and are choosing a third option that has no impact. I don’t get why this concept is so hard to understand.

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            Poor feefees. You clearly don’t care about facts and logic.

            Because facts and logic would lead you to the realization that only Harris can fix her appeal to voters, and that 3rd party voters dont effect the election outcome for president. If someone is voting 3rd party they have good reasons for it. And no amount of bitching at them will change those reasons.

            You not agreeing with those reasons is a you problem not a them problem. If harris is the more popular candidate she’ll win thats how it works. If shes not she wont. these are decisions only harris can make about ber campaign.

            Fun fact: many 3rd party voters are also Republicans who wouldn’t have voted for harris anyways. Are they also helping trump?