• goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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    28 days ago

    @[email protected] I don’t think your post worked out too well 🐔

    also I want to point out the amazing differences between these communities. See, you’re very much, unapologetically, a tankie, but you’re fully allowed to comment and even engage in this community despite your farming and attempted framing that this community is extremist.

    Now, if we were to do the same, we’d be defederated. Which we were!

    Perhaps you should use the liberty this community has to actually ask for our opinions as opposed to fishing for responses. You’ll find we’re a very diverse community with many different opinions, some are even communists.

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      28 days ago

      I wouldn’t be fishing here if I wasn’t getting bites, and I wouldn’t have thought to dip my hook in the water if I hadn’t seen abundant signs of good fishing.

      You are free to create a Hexbear account and contribute however you like. I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don’t provoke them. But they’ve not committed to civility like you’ve done here, so be careful not to let you mask slip.

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        28 days ago

        You are free to create a Hexbear account and contribute however you like. I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don’t provoke them. But they’ve not committed to civility like you’ve done here, so be careful not to let you mask slip.

        I have, and I was, and no, I got perma’d. Four different users also attempted to dox me. I know since I was in their private chatrooms during the time. Seeing them get frustrated when they couldn’t do it was very entertaining. They even tried image meta-data, the poor things

        And my mask? I don’t have a mask. I’m very honest with my views and am willing to share them with anyone who wishes to know.

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          Can people with views that differ my own have come to those views in an honest and reasoned fashion, even if I think they’re flawed?

          Nah, they’re definitely just bad faith fascists hiding their “power level”.

          Scary easy to see how easy you end up with thought police when people that think like this hold power.

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          I have, and I was, and no, I got perma’d.

          Welp, i guess there we have it. I’ve so far managed to avoid provoking them myself, cross my fingers I don’t get on their bad side.

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            28 days ago

            why would you? you agree with them lol. try to say that stalin was a disaster for communism and his dictatorship killed it, then you’ll be in trouble

            i do like how you ignored mentioning the dox attempts

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              28 days ago

              i do like how you ignored mentioning the dox attempts

              I have no way of knowing if that’s accurate, nor to i have any way of knowing what it was that got you perma’d.

              try to say that stalin was a disaster for communism and his dictatorship killed it, then you’ll be in trouble

              I probably wouldn’t say that, because the US defeated communism (according to their own accounting). I would tread lightly around anything I may not agree with them on, but I do happen to agree with them on a lot. At least most of them. Half of them. Maybe slightly less than a majority of them.

              What can I say, they aren’t a monolith.

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                28 days ago

                You can say that Stalin was bad, right?

                What can I say, they aren’t a monolith.

                But their hatred towards diversity and dissent is

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                  28 days ago

                  You can say that Stalin was bad, right?

                  Bad on what grounds? His Soviet project certainly didn’t last, I think that failure is bad. He had quite a few deaths under his leadership, that was pretty bad, too. But it’d be crazy to discuss Stalin’s failures without acknowledging the post war reality: a depleted and war-torn Russia, former allies (who just dropped two atomic bombs on Japan to make a point) immediately resuming hostilities and sanctions against his fledgling national project, and the isolation that comes with being that cold-war black sheep that nobody wants to play with.

                  From that perspective it’s suddenly not surprising that his project failed, even if you think he committed huge atrocities on the way down

                  But their hatred towards diversity and dissent is

                  Nah, they respect dissent if it’s well founded. There is plenty of ground for disagreement so long as you don’t make grandiose sweeping statements against AES projects or about minority groups, throw the baby out with the bathwater, that kind of thing. We all really want to see an AES project succeed, so it’s important to acknowledge the failures where they happen, and see with clear eyes the systemic hurtles that ran them aground. If you think AES projects don’t exist and never will, then you will lack the most important commonality they share and will almost certainly be booted out. I think most important to not fucking it up with them is knowing and acknowledging that liberation movements are always violent, even anarchist ones on occasion, and always have the deck stacked against them. Dominant power systems always have a monopoly on the legitimate use of force, so overcoming one will always inevitably cross that line. There are few that have lasted, and even fewer that lasted without the slaughter of some dissenting group or another. Interesting too is how often revolutionary movements spawn counter-revolutionary movements, and that likelihood is a good reason to be an anarchist, if that’s your jamb.

                  But even then, you can be an anarchist and get along with them fine. Just don’t go in expecting them to listen to your anti-ML takes without getting the boot right quick. If you disagree with Stalin, you’d better be quick to acknowledge the systemic conditions that contributed to his failure before you get to blaming him for the holomodor lmao. Fair game if you think his leadership decisions were huge mistakes or weren’t justified, though they’ll probably disagree.

                  Most days the anarchists just sit there and wait for capitalism to collapse.

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            27 days ago

            Did you inherit a thousand years of piss-poor takes or are you just great at making shitty opinions?

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        28 days ago

        I promise they will answer any questions you have civilly, so long as you don’t provoke them.

        You actually believe this?

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            I’ve seen how they behave on other instances, no way will they be polite and courteous when someone disagrees with them on home turf.

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              You just gotta know which things you disagree on, and why they might strongly disagree with you, and not just say “fuck it, imma blast off”.

              If you go in wanting to make a point then yea. They will not be courteous.

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                Ah, love this.

                ‘They’re fine if you’re supply evidence to back up your claims’

                ‘Actually if you try to do that then you’ll be booted’

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            No brigading. Brigading is a headache for both admins

            this community is an exception, although a rickety one

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    28 days ago

    throwing a pipe bomb into an art contest

    incredibly good and based

    This is what happens when you become consumed by hatred. The most insane statements seem entirely reasonable to them, because they are blinded by fear and hate.

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    28 days ago

    Apparently drawing Mohammad is worse than a fucking pipe bomb. Thank God I have the self awareness to browse communities outside of my echo chamber. I wish they did too

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    this type of shit is part of what drove me away from hexbear (yeah I know it’s embarrassing). many of them have the opinion that being a dick is worthy of corporal or capital punishment. is it dickish to intentionally trash on another culture’s beliefs? probably yeah. but does it justify murder? fucking of course not!

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      you’re not alone. There’s quite a few users in this community who are former-hexbear and lemmygrad

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    That is psychotic. They recognize it is wrong, too. They would be screeching in apoplectic rage if a radical opposed to their speech were talking about pipe bombing some sort of IRL Hexbear meme reposting event.

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      They only say it because they’re edgy. They are actually very, very passive, i mean they have to put trigger warnings for adult content–If they can’t handle seeing violence, they aren’t going to do any of it

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        not to shit on content warnings because I appreciate that different people have different things that can be very upsetting to them, but hexbear literally requires warnings on photos of ice cream. or cooked food that could possibly include an animal product even if you can’t directly see it or tell the difference. I’m not joking or exaggerating, this caused quite a stir when the admins implemented that policy.

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          that’s hilarious.

          how do they expect to be guerillas or handle any revolution? also don’t tell them about animal rights in china lmao