• goat@sh.itjust.worksOPM
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    2 days ago

    Yes, the dislike of a democratically elected leader is reasonable clause to call for innocent french people to die in a massacre

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      2 days ago

      I didn’t say it was reasonable, I was only answering the question as to why they were angry with France.

      I think what the west deserves for funding a genocidal fascist is entirely up for debate, but that they deserve something is pretty well justified, IMHO

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        2 days ago

        I think what the west deserves for funding a genocidal fascist is entirely up for debate, but that they deserve something is pretty well justified, IMHO

        Are you trying to say the West deserves violence? Advocating for violence isn’t allowed in this community or instance.

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          22 hours ago

          Maybe the west should lay off the fucking violence themselves and not bleat when it gets dished back to them once in a while.

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            15 hours ago

            The West? All of the West? You hear that New Zealand?! You cowards!

            But legitimately, ‘dished back to them?’ – Not very pro-peace of you. Violence begets violence. You should aim for peace, not more war.

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            2 days ago

            And what will this justice be? Because the post is saying a massacre.

            I think it’s pretty telling you were advocating for violence, and now you’re forced to backtrack.

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              2 days ago

              I wasn’t advocating for anything, I was answering the question about why they were angry with the french.

              And what will this justice be?

              If it were me, i’d say the west should face international sanction and prosecution in the Hague for all leaders/diplomats accused of willfully collaborating with a genocide. Of course, a western-controlled criminal court would never do such a thing, so I guess all we have is BDS and public protest.

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                2 days ago

                You italicised something. Implying violence as per the post.

                International sanctions? How would that even work? You can’t sanction over half the world, let alone prosecute them. Why does New Zealand get sanctioned? Why Europe? Why Canada? What about countries that are collaborating in the Ukraine-Russia war? How about congo?

                This is a fantasy

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                  2 days ago

                  I italicized something because I believe the west (including France, in this case) does deserve some kind of punishment for their crimes against Palestine. Obviously I don’t think countries who had nothing to do with this genocide need be punished, but at this point much of the western world has enabled it either by direct material contribution or by a failure to boycott, divest, or sanction Israel for their crimes.

                  It’s not up to me to decide what that justice is or how it’s administered, but I don’t think there’s any arguing that there shouldn’t be some measure of justice for Palestine. Unless you believe Israel has done nothing wrong…?

                  This is a fantasy

                  Yup, that’s all we have, because as you alluded to: this is the west’s global hegemony, we’re just living in it.