Asking as there has been a few comments mentioning this with the new [email protected] taking over [email protected]
[email protected] for additional context on those recent events if you are interested
Also, an older post for more context on how lemmy.ml is managed: https://lemmy.world/post/16211417
Curious to hear other thoughts about this, as I’m trying to keep [email protected] active, but might suggest to move it elsewhere if a lot of people prefer not to interact with lemmy.ml communities
I block subs and users and that usually takes care of 99% of the bullshit
Do you do it individually, or use like an app or something? Bc the Lemmy instance block does very little - only blocking communities but not users from that instance.
PieFed btw allows user blocking of any custom instance you want though:-) - I just switched to it today and think I am going to be happier here. It’s not quite as polished as Lemmy, but on the other hand I don’t see true user-level blocking ever being added to Lemmy no matter how long the wait. So I decided that I was tired of wading through the garbage rooting for treasure, and just decided to block it all.
I’m on boost so maybe its just client side. Tbh i don’t know much about how lemmy functions under the hood. It’s been fun tho
Yeah it’s probably client-side. Boost… that’s good to know, thanks!:-)
Completely banned, I have zero interaction with them.
i tend to not even notice, usually picking a community by volume of subs and posting. its hard to keep up with the terrible modding in places as ive subbed to over 800 active communities in various instances. i dont block instances. at minimum, i want to see whats going on.
i dont recall specific issues with .ml but .world seems specifically egregious with its power trip modding, based on how ive been ‘reprimanded’… its amazing how they want to kill activity/enthusiasm in some subs that are desperate for content.
it feels like once an instance gets a solid level of user account churn, they feel they can do whatever to end users as there will just be more. its reddit all over again in places.
the power modding is somewhat shocking to me as the threadiverse really isnt all that large. i guess it doesnt take much for those people.
some of the only users ive silenced are mods
I agree that lemmy.world moderation has issues. It can be arbitrary and the written rules don’t really matter. There’s also zero recourse.
I would recommend sh.itjust.works
I would recommend sh.itjust.works
lol
I was banned from a large sub there because I downvoted some clickbaity posts by the mod themselves. Literally that, downvoting.
Feel free to report it on [email protected]
Seems like this is a Lemmy wide problem then. Things like this are social problems, not technical ones.
What community was it if you don’t mind?
Quite frankly I’d rather not say it, I don’t want to start shit/drama.
A wise decision.
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Okay but while everything has its downsides… not equally so.
What if one day you were no longer allowed to discuss Linux? Or Teslas? Or whatever else the admins decided were now forbidden topics? Btw without telling you what those topics are. Also, if you even so much as accidentally mention the names of such, you lose access to the entire Fediverse from your account (on that instance).
It doesn’t even matter what topic material the admins of lemmy.ml have decided to block - Russia, China, Ukraine, Uyghurs, Taiwan, North Korea, North Carolina, Israel, Palestine, Gaza, it doesn’t matter. What matters is that they have set themselves up as the arbiters of “truth(iness)” and ban anyone from every community across the entire instance, even those they have never even heard of.
And then they dictate those rules - which again, are nowhere written down, plus not all that easy to guess at (let’s see… the USA does genocide, but Russia does too? no wait, Russia can do no wrong - that’s it! Oh shit, too late, already banned!:-P) - and hold all of the content on every community across the entire instance hostage to those rules.
I came here from Reddit to get away from such. Oopsie, it’s here too.
Do whatever you want, ofc :-) I just hope that I explained this position well enough to convey that nuanced take that some actions are worth holding apart from others. This isn’t merely a minor inconvenience imho - it’s a major breach of the principles that many of us came here to support in the Fediverse, cited as being free and open source, except apparently the set of rules are not open to be read anywhere at all.
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One of my sentences there was a hypothetical written as if that were the case yes, but I did note that you were not from there, and the rest pertains to people trying to communicate with communities on that instance. Anyway, do whatever you want - I tried to offer an interesting counterexample but I’m not going to try to brow-beat you with anything. This isn’t Reddit - we can leave those modes behind us, if we want.
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Well said.:-)
but there are quite a few “tech”-oriented instances over which my trigger finger is itching on the site ban trigger.
Which ones? Lemmy.zip, lemdro.id, programming.dev?
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I guess there’s a difference between not liking an instance, and the mods or admins power tripping and not following their own rules.
Sh.itjust.works for instance seems appreciated by almost everyone, except maybe for their name
Blocked the whole thing on my instance.
Yep. To a certain extent I don’t care what your political views are, but if you’re always trolling and putting them up in my face. And have no integrity rules wise, I’m blocking.
Curious to hear other thoughts about this, as I’m trying to keep [email protected] active, but might suggest to move it elsewhere if a lot of people prefer not to interact with lemmy.ml communities
I would vote for moving it elsewhere. Maybe lemmy.zip would be a good instance that’s focused around tech and gaming. Or discuss.tchncs.de because [email protected] and [email protected] are already hosted there.
You are a very active poster here, so moving it to that instance would also be convenient in case you need to mod
Also, that instance is very well managed, always impressed with the other services they offer.
Based on the comments, it seems like we should definitely suggest this. Would you like to make a meta post or do I do it?
I’m busy this weekend. Feel free to go ahead with the post.
Done!
Yes, except a few selected communities I completely avoid interacting with lemmy.ml
So that should be a “no” really :)
For me it’s a no, but looking at my subscribed communities, i don’t have all that many ml communities in there tbh.
The ones that i like best and that don’t have a better alternative elsewhere are [email protected] and [email protected] and i guess the ones about lemmy itself and jerboa.
The way they seem to be banning people is worrying to me, the ml users i generally don’t have a problem with, but i’m avoiding politics.
For me it’s FOSS og communities like [email protected] or [email protected] that don’t have alternatives on other instances neither
And that’s completely understandable
I came to ani.social to avoid being federated with those brain rott morons.
Says the Zionist piece of shit, cheering on a genocide.
Yes.
Are you saying you’re actually pro-genocide? Kind of a fucked up thing to say even in jest dude.
K. Go cry in your mom’s basement.
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Be gone China troll!
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Go play on Chines media to not get your social score destroyed.
I’m glad literal Nazis like yourself are choosing to self segregate. If you people would just do that in real life the world would be better.
K. Go to lemmygrad and stay there in your totally not nazi bouble.
Of the two of us, you’re the only one that has expressed empathy for a openly Nazi state doing a genocide while actively invading peaceful neighbors and shooting UN troops.
K. As said, go play with the other lemmygrad trolls. You obviously have below 0 education on the topic and you are only willing to get more Desinformation.
You’re proof stalin shouldn’t have stopped until he hit the Pacific through the Atlantic.
As said, get your sock puppet and go to lemmygrad, stay there and don’t put your ass text below my eyes ever again or so god help you.
Go ahead and do whatever you think you can my family survived Nazis once, we’ll survive you again.
The irony of this comment…
“What will help me win this debate with an apologist for ethnic cleansing? I know, I’ll just do ethnic cleansing apologia even harder!”
Ethnic cleansing wasn’t a thing in the ussr, the socially progressive of the two world powers at the time. Stalin did unapologetically kill lots of Nazis though. That was good despite your Nazi apologia propaganda.
Yes!
That instance just has a stink on it.
I’m sure there’s some normal users or communities bit there’s a lot who are just plain unpleasant to interact with.
No, there are no instances whose communities I refuse to participate on. I have never blocked a community, user, or instance here.
Me too but clearly Lemmy.ml doesn’t like me xD
*Besides the ones your instance has defederated from
Oh man I don’t know how I would use this place if I couldn’t block communities. First few weeks I try to use Lemmy every single post was just memes so I’d end up blocking like two dozen communities to stop it.
Not to mention just randomly scrolling in public and whoops, it’s a random porn clip brought to you by lemmynsfw
In your Settings is an option to ban all content labelled as NSFW regardless of its origin.
I block all .ml communities when I see them pop up. I’m somewhere between 200-300 blocked communities at the moment (not exclusively .ml though).
I’ve blocked the instance quite a while ago. In the beginning I was just blocking communities, but the users spill everywhere unless you go nuclear.
Thanks for this info, I didn’t realize you could block an entire instance.
You can’t really. I mean you can block an instance, but that only hides the communities that are on it - you’ll still see the users. The only way I know how to ditch the users, besides blocking each one individually, would be to make a new account on either dubvee.org or Lemmy.cafe where all 3 of the big 3 are completely defederated. Think of those instances as troll-blockers, working hard to keep the Fediverse pleasant to converse in:-).
That instance got blocked from me a while ago together with Hexbear and Lemmygrad.