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    between climate inaction and retreat

    FTFY. One is still better than the other, but let’s not kid ourselves here.

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    thats a choice between evil and maybe a bit less evil.

    and i’m being generous here.

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    I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a clearer choice between good and evil in real life. Crazy that it’s such a difficult one for this country…

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              So my choices are genocide or more genocide? I’ll take “other”.

              Imagine thinking voting for someone enabling a genocide is the moral option.

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                Yes. But realistically, “other” has a near zero chance of actually happening. You can vote third party if your conscious is really begging you to do that, but you need to understand that it’s WAY more nuanced than that - 99% of the voting population will be voting either red or blue, whether you like it or not.

                So how about instead of throwing your vote away to the 1% with the near zero chance of winning, vote blue to prevent trump from taking over the situation and resulting in many, many more people being killed?

                You’d rather take the moral high ground on something that literally has two outcomes, A “genocide” or B “more genocide” by choosing C which isn’t even an option and reduces the likelihood of A and increases the likelihood of B. So really that makes A the moral option, despite you calling it “enabling a genocide”, because otherwise you are performing a real action to make B more likely.

                TL;DR, when trump wins because you and a bunch of self-righteous morons decide to vote third party in protest, YOU are actually at fault for the genocide worsening and the death of many more people.

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                  choosing C which isn’t even an option

                  Then why can I vote for it?

                  “Democrats can never fail, they can only be failed”.

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          I am not under the illusion that Harris is just imperfect. I think she is horrible and at best marginally less terrible than Trump