• lengau@midwest.social
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    2 months ago

    You being anticommunist is what I thought you meant. Those aren’t unrelated.

    So you think that what I meant by “I’m more worried about [some people who] make other communists look bad” was that I’m an anti-communist? That seems highly unlikely. If I were anti-communist, surely I’d love those people precisely because they make communists look bad?

    I have been acting in good-faith

    Literally your first response to me in this entire thread was uncivil condescension.

    Communists, Marxists, Marxist-Leninists, etc. Anyone that actually defends AES and doesn’t repeat US State Department Propaganda about the Global South.

    Yeah that’s not what I mean by Tankies, and it’s not what most people mean by tankies. Not all marxist-leninists are tankies, for example. In fact I’d go out on a limb and say most aren’t. But those who try to sweep under the rug the bad things that nominally-communist states have done are tankies, and they give other communists, other marxists, other marxist-leninists, and indeed all other leftists a bad name. (As an aside, most of the time those things were done by state-capitalist governments, not communist ones.)

    doesn’t repeat US State Department Propaganda about the Global South.

    I’m actually from the Global South. I can promise you the US state department is full of shit. As are most Americans who speak about it, including most American leftists.

    • Cowbee [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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      So you think that what I meant by “I’m more worried about [some people who] make other communists look bad” was that I’m an anti-communist? That seems highly unlikely. If I were anti-communist, surely I’d love those people precisely because they make communists look bad?

      “Left” anticommunism is a thing. People who claim to be leftists yet bash leftists.

      Literally your first response to me in this entire thread was uncivil condescension.

      I don’t agree.

      Yeah that’s not what I mean by Tankies, and it’s not what most people mean by tankies. Not all marxist-leninists are tankies, for example. In fact I’d go out on a limb and say most aren’t. But those who try to sweep under the rug the bad things that nominally-communist states have done are tankies, and they give other communists, other marxists, other marxist-leninists, and indeed all other leftists a bad name. (As an aside, most of the time those things were done by state-capitalist governments, not communist ones.)

      Mind explaining what “state-capitalist governments” that are supposedly supported by “tankies?” This is where I believe you’re going for the “left” anticommunist bit. The whole “no true Communist movements” idea is “left” anticommunism.

      I’m actually from the Global South. I can promise you the US state department is full of shit. As are most Americans who speak about it, including most American leftists.

      Cool, that doesn’t mean you can’t be a “left” anticommunist.

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      Literally your first response to me in this entire thread was uncivil condescension.

      Can you please copy and paste what bit seems so to you?