Yeah, I am very familiar with Debian on servers. It works great on servers. Have experienced with all kinds of stability stages regarding Debian.

However, Desktop Debian usually does not work. Then I switch to the one, which should work the easiest, so Ubuntu or some derivative. And this usually still needs tons of troubleshooting over hours to make it work to a minimum standard…

I’ve tried many many laptops. Don’t remember which ones, but they there the most sock common, you can probably imagine. For example, the last one is a budget acer with a Radeon discreet card or something. No NVIDIA. Installed Lubuntu on it. Absolutely standard installation. Worked for some while. Then it stopped working. Whenever I booted up the laptop, the screen went black after a second on login screen. Researching for hours and hours did not help to find a solution.

Funnily enough, I only installed Lubuntu in the first place, because I tried Debian Stable before that and that one didn’t boot at all. It did not work even once. So, I had switched to Lubuntu…

This is one representative example for how those great Linux installations always go in my cases. Again, this did not happen once or twice. This happens almost every single time I try to install Linux on any normal stock hardware, whatsoever.

The only time I had no trouble installing Linux is on my current laptop (tablet, but like a laptop) device. But do you know why? Because I reserched for hours for a device, which fits my needs and is very compatible with Linux. That’s why. I had to research tons of hours to find a device, which is actually Linux compatible.

That said, not even this device works fine. Actually, the opposite. It is dangerous to your health. Yeah, I’m not joking, I literally mean it.

One time, I started Firefox on it and the screen started flickering really hard. Couldn’t control or fix it. If my friend would’ve been there, he would’ve gotten a seizure 100%, since he has photosensitive epilepsy. Linux is literally dangerous to your health.

Windows might be annoying and all… But it doesn’t give anyone literal seizures.

What PCs? Certified by some Linux supporting company? If you buy a random laptop or pre-made PC, chances are high, that it won’t work. And I’m not even a “beginner”, who does “beginner” mistakes. No, I’m actually a Linux pro. I work with Linux literally every single day, even in my free time.

It’s not about the speed of the installation… It’s about the installation not working. Crashes. Hard to see error logs. Drivers missing for the most generic hardware, ever. No, I’m not talking about an unmaintained fringe distribution. I’m talking about Ubuntu, Lubuntu & Debian. Plain old stable and simple.

Tried it over many years. Last one was last year. Every time, the same problem. I even considered moving to Windows, but it would be tougher for me to administrate for me, as I’m used to headless Linux. It’s just, whenever Linux tries to GUI, it fucks up everything colossaly.

Running Gitea and want to mirror worthwhile repositories, hence this post. :)

Happened to me all the time, when, for example, setting up very generic and common laptops for family & friends. It never worked out of the box. Every single time, I had to give special treatment. Research extra drivers, etc… Hard to do in some locations, when they do not have a second system to do all the work from.

Okay, but are they in danger of being removed? I think, they should be very well preserved…

Have a different experience. Usually, Linux does not even boot, due to driver issues, in the first place. So, the first installation process usually easily takes 5 to 10 hours, straight. And this is only for common popular distributions, not to mention lesser known and lesser supported ones. (Talking about Linux GUI based installations, only.)

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The problem is, that most people would then not update, get issues, land in a thread like this, make propaganda against Windows, since something doesn’t work or is insecure, when in fact the problem is in front of the screen, who always denied the update, that fixes those issues… That is why upgrades are rightfully enforced. At some point, you gotta upgrade or stop using the system.

Good points.

My friend uses the same headset on Linux, that I use on Windows.

When he “mutes” his headset, it is not actually muted on Linux. It is not really fixable. Obviously, on Windows it just works.

Literally the same story happened on Linux in the span of decades countless times. On Windows? Cannot remember this happening more than once.

How to install the app on Linux.

You search for it. Highly likely it is not available or barely functional.

IF it works, it’s only packaged for Ubuntu, Debian and Arch. If you use Nix or something even more niche, good luck with proprietary software or sometimes even openly available open source software.

Using Windows since Windows XP was sired. Using Linux for longer than that, mostly Linux servers, but have tons of years of Linux Desktop experience under my belt, with probably half of all Linux distributions on DistroWatch.com.

Conclusion: Linux server rocks. Windows Desktop sux in many ways, but it just works and I personally have no issues with it. Linux Desktop is the worst hell possible. Barely ever works. It is literal hell and I hate it.

Whenever I try to get into Linux Desktop, I have to meditate and drink a de-stressing tea beforehand, or else I cannot guarantee the laptop’s or PC’s screen’s safety, when dealing with Linux Desktop.

For anyone attempting to comment: note, that there is a huge difference between headless server Linux usage and Linux Desktop/GUI usage. I’m only talking about Linux GUI. Linux headless is fine and works great!

Can’t do much with these specs. You could make it headless and lose the desktop environment to make it much more useful.

Yes, I switched to an older version and there was the warning. However, there was no warning on 0.101.0 whatsoever, so upgrading just one patch version broke my master module.

Sometimes, I skip some versions, so I am certain, that I jumped from < 0.100.0 straight to 0.101.0 and here we are, without any deprecation warning.

Fully agree on this. I do not say, it’s bad. I love innovation and this is what I love about Nushell. Just saying, that using it at work might not always be the best idea. ;)

Yesterday, I upgraded from 0.101.0 to 0.102.0 and date to-table was replaced equally (actually better) with into record, however it was not documented well in the error. Had to research for 5 to 10 minutes, which does not sound much, but if you get this like every second version, the amount of time adds up quickly.