Ellie’s home, like most in Six Nations, isn’t connected to municipal water. On the sprawling reserve in Southwestern Ontario, roughly 70 per cent of households, or about 8,500 people, are without piped, reliable drinking water.

The Six Nations reserve is a 1 hour 20 minute drive West from Niagara

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    This is fucking stupid. I have lived around this area for my entire life and literally everyone who doesn’t live on a reserve (and isn’t part of an actual town) have wells or cisterns that were paid with privately.

    The only thing stopping someone from getting their own well would be if the ground water isn’t available (very low probability that everyone around the reserve has ground water but the reserve doesn’t) or that the ground water is contaiminted (also very low probability for the same reason as before, and especially because contamination that bad would have a huge affect downstream in the Grand River).

    Like shit, I have both a well and a cistern, as do all my neighbours around me… If someone could explain why wells and cisterns don’t work on this particular reserve I’d really appreciate it.

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      Well, the first thing would be that you own your own land. That is not the case on reserve land. No one owns their own home or land there, nor can they. That means no equity or ability to take out a second mortgage to fund digging a well or install a cistern.

      It would behoove you to read up on the Indian Act and how it works, what/who it controls and the limitations First Nations people face because of it.

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        In what world do you need a second mortgage for a well or cistern? You could do it with an unsecured line of credit unless you’re an idiot and destroyed your credit rating.

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          And again … It would behoove you to read up on the Indian Act and how it works, what/who it controls and the limitations First Nations people face because of it.

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      This is fucking stupid. I have lived around this area for my entire life and literally everyone who doesn’t live on a reserve (and isn’t part of an actual town) have wells or cisterns that were paid with privately.

      The only thing stopping someone from getting their own well would be if the ground water isn’t available (very low probability that everyone around the reserve has ground water but the reserve doesn’t) or that the ground water is contaiminted (also very low probability for the same reason as before, and especially because contamination that bad would have a huge affect downstream in the Grand River).

      If someone could explain why wells and cisterns don’t work on this particular reserve I’d really appreciate it.

      I would assume it is because the Federal Government is responsible for water on the reserve, which is pretty standard information in Canada, and those living on the reserve don’t have the authority to privately install anything.

      I am happy to hear that you and your neighbors have the means to privately install personal well’s and cisterns on your property, but this is clearly a different situation.

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        Stupid take, there’s plenty of other construction happening on reserves, both private and commercial. You really think the federal government is specifically disallowing wells and cisterns while allowing other forms of construction?

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          … there’s plenty of other construction happening on reserves, both private and commercial.

          Please show your proof of this.

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          Stupid take, there’s plenty of other construction happening on reserves, both private and commercial. You really think the federal government is specifically disallowing wells and cisterns while allowing other forms of construction?

          You are free to source any information you have on this “plenty of construction” happening on reserve land that the Federal Government does not have a say in.

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            I didn’t say the federal government doesn’t have a say in construction, I said that I highly doubt they are somehow only disallowing water projects

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    Outside Toronto? … how about over 50 remote and semi remote Native reserves in northern Ontario that either have undrinkable, almost undrinkable, distasteful, questionable or downright dangerous running water for their household.

    All this in a supposed first world modern province of Canada.

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      Thanks for calling that out. I’m sure it’s a complex problem, especially for remote reserves. I just found out about this organisation who seem to be actively tackling part of the problem https://waterfirst.ngo/