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    7 months ago

    Meanwhile the US is sending arms to Israel to bomb the lethally dangerous Palestinian children. And the EU is still debating whether Russia means it or not.

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      7 months ago

      I think the EU knows full well that Putin means it.

      I also think Putin has a huge amount of kompromat on EU leaders due to his vast intelligence machine and they are aware that he could leak any of one their dirty secrets any time he wants via proxies.

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        7 months ago

        Secrets and political careers over filthy Ukrainian lives. Sounds about right for politicians👌

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    7 months ago

    Is the narrative finally shifting? If you said this two months ago everyone called you a tankie.

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      7 months ago

      It will be very dire. Russia has a lot of people to throw at the problem. That’s how the they won Ww2. They didn’t win based on tactics. They threw more people at the slaughter. I’m just shocked the average Russian has had enough of this yet.

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        7 months ago

        Russia is just producing more weapons this is not a manpower problem. And after using Ukraine as meat puppets to tank the Russian economy we are now abandoning them as we did with past allies such as the Kurds.

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          7 months ago

          I’ve been shocked at how little ammo we can produce. I always assumed America had more capacity to produce ammo. I get stingers and javelins are limited runs but 155mm ammo seems like something we should be able to produce in large quantities but we can’t.

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            7 months ago

            We can definitely produce large quantities. The problem is that we are giving Ukraine our old garbage to fight with. They are two years into the war and still haven’t received F16’s

            If we were serious we would have given Ukraine some good stuff at the start and they would have won before Russia was able to ramp up their weapons production.

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              7 months ago

              I wouldn’t call the 155 ammo garbage. It’s just from our stockpile It isn’t as easy as hand them something. It’s takes training to use the weapon correctly. Most everything we’ve given is current issue for the United States military. You just can’t had them an f16. They need the equipment to use the f16. They need the training to fly the f16

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                7 months ago

                Sure but it certainly doesn’t take two years.

                The point remains. Especially at the start of the invasion we just gave Ukraine old scraps. We did not give them what they needed to win, only to stall.

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                  7 months ago

                  I would say what we gave was scarps. It’s all current issue hardware. Nothing was obsolete.

                  That’s been part of the problem. We can degrade our ability to fight by giving it to Ukraine.

                  The large gap is the 155mm ammo. We can’t keep up with that.