“in Hamas custody”, or killed by Israeli strikes? So far all the hostages have died from actions by Israel. The difference is extremely important in this case and the weasel word title doesn’t help with giving accurate info.
Edit: it’s worth pointing out that this is not OPs fault, but the fault of the news org
However they died, they were paramedics, meaning they helped people. So this is a loss regardless. Just two more senseless deaths wrought by both the IDF and Hamas since October 7th.
People are getting so caught up in Israel’s genocidal bullshit (which is heinous and horrific, to be explicit so I don’t get dog piled) that they seem to be forgetting that Hamas is a literal terrorist group that would happily kill us all, and also subjugates Palestinians. They did take hostages, they have killed some, and they have treated them all very poorly by all accounts. You can hate both sides of this one guys, it’s pretty easy.
Thanks for posting the article and your thoughts, Mr. Squid.
Who is “us all”? Are you colonizing Palestinian land and terrorizing Palestinians?
I’m just a member of the LGBT community. But also, I am an American, which means kinda, but not directly. Hamas does not have a rosy view on people from the US.
But also… Hamas terrorizes Palestinians as well, so not sure what point you’re trying to make here.
Edit: Not sure who replied, but I have you blocked. Just didn’t want you to have to wait for a response.
Wonder why they don’t appreciate the people sending the bombs used to Genocide Palestinians. It must be the LGBT thing.
Ah yes the people being Genocided inside of a concentration camp are actually the Genocidal ones.
Please remind us how israel gladly came to peace with the PA and totally doesn’t commit ethnic cleansing on the West Bank.
Don’t both sides this one. Israel killed these people.
So far all the hostages have died from actions by Israel
Some keep ignoring the part where people became hostages.
Some keep ignoring the part where retaliation against a foreign nation conducting genocide against you for 70 years is not only justified and easy to understand, but fucking commendable. If Hamas weren’t in fact backed by Israel, them taking hostages would’ve actually been something to get behind.
retaliation against a foreign nation conducting genocide against you for 70 years is not only justified and easy to understand, but fucking commendable
A retaliation that results in a predictable extermination is not commendable, it’s stupid. Instead of spending resources on rockets they should’ve spent them on building universities that would help them better understand the situation and possible ways to deal with it effectively.
Oh wait, I’m being stupid. Rockets and terrorism all the way it is! Because it’s easier and you get many internet points for calling it a “retaliation”.
should’ve spent them on building universities that would help them better understand the situation and possible ways to deal with it effectively.
First of all… They already had universities. Secondly, how exactly does “better understanding the situation” fix being held in a mass concentration camp?
Palestinians have tried diplomatic solutions in the past, but you can’t force a nation with more hard power than yours to the negotiation table.
The inherent problem with your argument is it doesn’t account for the disparity of both hard and soft power between the two belligerents.
The inherent problem with your argument
Problem with yours is what I already pointed out. You applaud people for doing terrorism (aka killing themselves). You refuse their ability to not jump knowingly into a bear trap with their both legs.
have tried diplomatic solutions in the past
Either they didn’t try hard enough or they could find non-diplomatic solutions. Better ones than doing terrorism (aka killing themselves).
If you accept someone saying the only way out of their situation was doing terrorism (aka killing themselves) then you are not a smart human being.
Problem with yours is what I already pointed out. You applaud people for doing terrorism (aka killing themselves).
This is the first time I’ve talked to you?
You refuse their ability to not jump knowingly into a bear trap with their both legs.
So you are blaming the the collective punishment on those receiving the collective punishment?
If Hamas killing women and children is wrong, is Israeli killing several times more not?
Either they didn’t try hard enough or they could find non-diplomatic solutions. Better ones than doing terrorism (aka killing themselves).
Kinda sounds like you have no idea what you are talking about… It takes two willing parties to negotiate. And in these negotiations Israel has always had more power, thus more responsibility to make peace.
If you accept someone saying the only way out of their situation was doing terrorism (aka killing themselves) then you are not a smart human being.
If you think labeling someone a terrorist changes the actual material conditions that causes this war… Then you aren’t a smart human being.
So you are blaming the the collective punishment on those receiving the collective punishment?
I blame people who did unnecessary stupid things that they knew would cause them to suffer even more. They are not smart. If they were smart they wouldn’t do it that way.
If Hamas killing women and children is wrong, is Israeli killing several times more not?
It’s wrong but they did not start this aggression without reason, and they know they are not suicidal.
It takes two willing parties to negotiate
Sigh. How else should I put it? Don’t do diplomacy if you think you are smart (hamas clearly aren’t) and already tried everything. Do terrorism. But please do it in a way that would actually benefit your cause. In a way that would not make them start another ground operation. I dunno, maybe try to not take hostages and not stream your murders for once? Or maybe release the hostages and surrender god damn it (it should even be possible to keep your lives by surrendering to a 3rd party instead). That would at least send a message to the world and maybe even save a lot of Palestinians.
labeling someone a terrorist
I didn’t do that here. They are just idiots.
Hamas needs to be wiped out
All they need to do is end the failed colonization experiment called Israel and theres no need for Hamas
Great, fuck Hamas terrorists and the leftist terrorist supporters
