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Military at the front wants talks with Russia, Ukrainian society is “exhausted”
Returning home from the US, Zelenskyy faces Russian advances, an exhausted society and the prospect of winter energy shortages
Once buoyed by hopes of liberating their lands, even soldiers at the front now voice a desire for negotiations with Russia to end the war. Yuriy, another commander on the eastern front who gave only his first name, says he fears the prospect of a “forever war”.
“I am for negotiations now,” he adds, expressing his concern that his son — also a soldier — could spend much of his life fighting and that his grandson might one day inherit an endless conflict.
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Turns out that being the front of yet another US/Russian proxy war sucks, as it always does, and maybe you should have thought about that before happily volunteering your country for the job.
I’m sure the next country the US wants to proxy into oblivion will learn from Ukraine, right?
and maybe you should have thought about that before happily volunteering your country for the job.
As opposed to… What?
Minsk Accords, or even a single peace talk
Russia wants Ukrainian territory and a puppet leader like they had before 2014. Ukraine doesn’t want to give them that territory or let them install a puppet leader. This is not a conflict peace talks can solve.
Fighting doesn’t appear to be getting us any closer to solving it either. Pick your poison.
I mean maybe but if the Ukrainian people want to try and save their country then let them.
We are letting them.
I mean yes. I’m addressing tankies who like to shit on Ukraine on the internet for not taking Russians offers for “peace”.
I’m sure the next country the US wants to proxy into oblivion will learn from Ukraine, right?
That would be Taiwan, possibly alongside Korea and Japan, right?
I think this is likely. I could see the US starting a proxy somewhere in South America too but nothing feels particularly primed for it. Taiwan definitely seems like the next major bet.
If it’s not Taiwan, it might be somewhere else that is regional specifically to keep China busy. India, something like that. The US values Taiwan extremely highly because of TSMC so they may decide that starting a war there is too risky.
US and Taiwan both are perfectly happy with the status quo, they would be the last people to start any wars there.
No amount of gaslighting is going to convince anybody but keep trying! When Putin inevitably ruins whatever is left of your little shithole, the rest of the world can celebrate lol.
Ah yes, the Financial Times are gaslighting you spreading Putler propaganda. Peak reddit brain on display here. 😂
This sub seems to be pro Russian… Russia started this conflict. The Ukrainians are defending them selves as one should.
